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The Pyramid (Re)Genesis Plan

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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 10:17 AM
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Hi ATS,

The following article, The Giza Genesis Plan, was recently published in New Dawn Magazine. Readers here at ATS might find it of some interest.

Regards,

SC
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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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i heard about an experiment, where they put a piece of raw meat inside a small pyramid at exact the position, where in the real pyramid the chamber with the sarcophagus was. the meat in the pyramid did decompose slower than normal.

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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 10:57 AM
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I'm open minded enough to consider the whole complex was planned and built with an overall single purpose in mind. I'm not however convinced of this particular theory. Although, I find it informative and interesting.

Needs a little bit more meat on them there bones.

PEACE

Thanks for posting it



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:14 PM
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I read The Orion Mystery a while back and I'm glad you brought it up in your article. I like reading alternative theories as to why the Giza Pyramids were built because what Egyptologists have to offer won't suffice for me.

S&F
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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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You'll be left scratching around in the Egyptian dust for any evidence they were ever intended as 'seed recovery vaults', but for Sumeria and their ziggurats perhaps surprisingly this was one of their aspects, to store the abundnace of the Gods, all manner of foodstuffs, including seeds, were ingathered to them and they were central storage areas.


The reconstruction of Eninnu, the ziggurat/temple of the god Ningirsu at Lagash gives very full account.




With his divine duties, namely to see that the great fields grow rich; to see that the levees and ditches of Lagac will be full to the brim; to see that Acnan , the bright and long one, the pure stalk, will raise its head high in the furrows in Gu-edina , the plain befitting its owner; to see that after the good fields have provided wheat, emmer and all kinds of pulses, the numerous grain heaps - the yield of the land of Lagac - will be heaped up, Gudea introduced Jicbar-ed , Enlil ´s surveyor, the farmer of Gu-edina , to lord Nin-jirsu .

From its cow-pen cream and milk are brought in. From its huge oven, great cakes and croissants come. Its ...... feeds cattle and sheep. Its house of food rations ...... an uzga shrine. Its regular offerings are a mountain oozing wine, from its brewery as much beer comes as the Tigris at high water.



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Holy An made the location appropriate. Enlil wound (?) a turban (?) round its top. Nin-hursaj looked at it approvingly. Enki , the king of Eridu , drove in its foundation pegs. The true lord with a pure heart, Suen , made its powers the largest in heaven and on earth. Nin-jirsu chose it among shrines of sprouting seeds with his heart. Mother Nance cared for it especially among the buildings of the land of Lagac . But it was the god of most reliable progeny who built the house and made its name famous.



The building of Ningirsu´s temple



The temple was associated with the ingathering of abundance and also the producing of abundance as a blessing from the Heavens.








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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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Hi Kantzveldt,

Many thanks for your informative post, particularly the information relating to the Ziggarauts - I had read some of that some time back.

You write:


Kantzveldt: You'll be left scratching around in the Egyptian dust for any evidence they were ever intended as 'seed recovery vaults' ...


SC: Well, you see - that's just the thing. There IS evidence of this but it is never really spoken of in mainstream Egyptology circles. The evidence I refer to may get some mention in passing - if it's lucky - but otherwise it has gone 'unnoticed' for quite some time.


"At the north end of the pyramid complex is a very large courtyard, still not fully cleared of debris, with an altar near the northern wall. Underground galleries along this wall contained real food - granaries of wheat and barley, but also figs, grapes, and bread. An extensive system of underground galleries, mostly inaccessible, is also located to the west of the pyramid and southern court..... Entered from 11 vertical shafts, some of the subterranean corridors lead to long narrow storerooms for an astonishing number of carved stone vessels (about 40,000!), many of which were made in the first two dynasties." - Kathryn A. Bard, An introduction to the archaeology of ancient Egypt, p.129

"Once again, the investigation of the west mounds is not yet complete, but excavations here have shown that there are no chambers in their superstructures. Besides size, the mounds also differ from each other in appearance. Lauer thought the easternmost had a flat roof, whereas the middle one had a gentle arched roof. The slightly inclined side walls were decorated with niches, while five shafts and staircases provided access to the substructure, which is composed of long, partly destroyed corridors and projecting side chambers. In some sections, a large number of fragments of stone vessels were found, together with grains (barley and wheat) and dried fruit."



Source.

Emmer had a special place in ancient Egypt, where it was the main wheat cultivated in Pharaonic times, although cultivated einkorn wheat was grown in great abundance during the Third Dynasty, and large quantities of it were found preserved, along with cultivated emmer wheat and barleys, in the subterranean chambers beneath the Step Pyramid at Saqqara - Jean-Phillipe Lauer, Laurent Taeckholm and E. Aberg, 'Les Plantes Decouvertes dans les Souterrains de l'Enceinte du Roi Zoser a Saqqarah' in Bulletin de l'Institut d'Egypte, Vol. XXXII, 1949-50, pp. 121-157, and see Plate IV for photo of ears of both wheats recovered from beneath the pyramid.

Source.

Along the eastern side of the tomb was a line of 11 vertical shafts, each of which was sunk to a depth of ca. 32 metres. At the bottom of each was long gallery that ran underneath the mastaba for a similar distance. The level of accuracy in their tunneling was low, however, and a few actually intersected. It is thought that they were intended for the Alabaster Jar with skeuomorphic rope decorationburial of members of the royal family. An empty alabaster sarcophagus was found in the fifth gallery (counting from the north) along with a wooden coffin containing the remains of a young boy aged 8-10. Fragments of other sarcophagi were found in the first two galleries and a seal impression bearing the name Netjerikhet (Djoser's Horus name) was discovered in the third. A hip bone belonging to a young woman was found in Gallery 3 but the carbon date from it is much earlier than the conventional dates for Djoser.

The other galleries, especially the sixth and seventh, were crammed with stone vessels-some 40,000 have been recovered-of various shapes and sizes. Quite a number of them bore the names of earlier rulers from the First and Second Dynasties, including Narmer, Djer Den, Adjib, Semerkhet, Kaa, Hetepsekhemwy, Ninetjer, Sekhemib and Khasekhemwy. It is generally assumed that these had been looted from earlier tombs, but when and by whom is a mystery. One theory is that Djoser collected the surviving material from royal tombs pillaged in the factional strife that characterizes much of the Second Dynasty. The fact that most of the tombs involved were located in Abydos raised further questions.

After the shafts had been filled, the mastaba was extended another 10 metres in that direction to cover the openings. This resulted in rectangular structure measuring 70 x 80 metres. To what extent it can be considered 'finished' at this point is open to debate.




Best wishes,,

Scott Creighton



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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Hi Scott,


yes perhaps i should have been more specific, that textual evidence would be the struggle. At Saqqara the physical evidence could lend itself to the complex being an ingathering site for foodstuffs and the associate bowls, after the Sumerian example, not only in terms of the feeding of the workers and Priests there, but also Royal rituals celebrated at the complex, the Heb Sed, the generative power of the King and associate Deities to produce and store plenty, the Apis bull cult also being related to such concepts.


I recently created a thread outling the case amongst other things, for the Sumerians somewhat back dating their year zero of the Dynastic calendar of Nippur to around 4400 BC, when the spring equinox was between Gemini/Taurus, again not many difficulties or seen as problematic, with plenty of supporting iconographic evidence and contemporary academics interpreting such along the same lines;



www.abovetopsecret.com...



Again, you'd struggle, and have, to make any such case based on Egyptian iconography and text for backdating their calender to Leo at the spring equionx circa 10,500 BC, but there is a case for the Sumerians understanding the basic numerics and astronomy to backdate a calendar, in theory to any point they chose, based on observed precession over extended period.


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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 01:57 PM
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Hi Kantzveldt,

Thank you for your post.


yes perhaps i should have been more specific, that textual evidence would be the struggle.


SC: Just as it is also a struggle for ANY theory relating to the purpose of the early, giant pyramids. If there existed a number of cross-corroboratory texts that told us the true purpose of these structures then there would be no struggle for anyone as we could then be fairly certain of their true purpose. But there are no texts from the period that tell us unequivocally the true nature and function of these structures. It is for that very reason that Egyptologists struggle to convince a lot of people of their 'tomb theory' and the reason why there still exists so much speculation and alternative theories such as, for example, the 'Recovery Vault Theory (RVT)'.


Kantzveldt: At Saqqara the physical evidence could lend itself to the complex being an ingathering site for foodstuffs and the associate bowls, after the Sumerian example, not only in terms of the feeding of the workers and Priests there, but also Royal rituals celebrated at the complex, the Heb Sed, the generative power of the King and associate Deities to produce and store plenty, the Apis bull cult also being related to such concepts.


SC: Feeding workers and priests? I suppose this may be true of the storage silos around the pyramid's perimeter but not of the storage facilities beneath the pyramid since these massive 'Recovery Vaults' had been permanently sealed with their cache of recovery goods. There was no immediate or easy access to them.


Kantzveldt: Again, you'd struggle, and have, to make any such case based on Egyptian iconography and text for backdating their calender to Leo at the spring equionx circa 10,500 BC....


SC: Written texts notwithstanding, I think it is very clear now that the ancient Egyptians utilised Orion's Belt along with its long-term precessional motion to arrange the Giza pyramid Recovery Vaults in such a manner as to create a precession clock (as shown in the PDF in the OP). I do not think there is any doubt that the Giza pyramid Recovery Vaults were laid down in order to create a precession clock utilising Orion's Belt.

The Orion-Giza Blueprint
The Precession of the Queens

We do not need to find a text that tells us that the ancient Egyptians knew how to paint or how to build pyramids. But there they are. I think the precessional knowledge exhibited in the arrangement of the Giza pyramid Recovery Vaults is highly compelling circumstantial evidence that such knowledge was known to the designers and builders of Giza.

Best wishes,

Scott Creighton



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 02:39 PM
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The Towers and Pyramids both created gateways or holes in time/space .

It involves gravitational anomalies plasma flows and exotic energy .

They did infuse the land with energy but that was a side effect .. charging the waters ...but

They were deliberately destroyed to sever the connection ... read your 'myths"

Why ? because those who came here screwed around with our genetics and enslaved us .

This time is over because We opened the Gates Again .

We should have listened to the warnings of the ancients .



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´In the dream there was someone who was as enormous as the heaven, who was as enormous as the earth. His head was like that of a god, his wings were like those of the Anzud bird, his lower body was like a flood storm. Lions were lying at his right and his left. He spoke to me about building his house, but I could not understand what he exactly meant, then daylight rose for me on the horizon.


Divine inspiration or telepathic communication ?


She announced to you the holy stars auguring the building of the house.


Apparently the creation of this "temple" was debated by those of the stars .. alien ?



As if at the roaring of the Anzud bird, the heavens tremble at my house, the E-ninnu founded by An , the powers of which are the greatest, surpassing all other powers, at the house whose owner looks out over a great distance. Its fierce halo reaches up to heaven, the great fearsomeness of my house settles upon all the lands. In response to its fame all lands will gather from as far as heaven´s borders, even Magan and Meluha will come down from their mountains.


It was Loud and vibrated the halo or something that glowed reached heaven or the limits of the sky ..the fearsomeness or awsome power was apparenty greater than OTHER houses mountains temples .



from there it was like a huge house embracing heaven....they made it lift its horns as a bull and they made it raise its head above all the lands, like the jicgana tree over the Abzu....As the house had been made to lift its head so high as to fill the space between heaven and earth

Nisaba opened the house of understanding and Enki put right the design of the house. Towards the house whose halo reaches to heaven, whose powers embrace heaven and earth, whose owner is a lord with a fierce stare


This "house" again a halo that reached heaven connecting with it but this time with a description "horns as a bull" this is a common description and it is found elsewhere in other culture who built their own temples ... the Tree analogy is Important .


They made the house grow as high as the hills, they made it float in the midst of heaven as a cloud, they made it lift its horns as a bull and they made it raise its head above all the lands, like the jicgana tree over the Abzu. As the house had been made to lift its head so high as to fill the space between heaven and earth like the hills,


Again Bull horns This is due to the polarities of the plasma flow I can produce numerous depictions of this across cultures ..but again it describes something interacting with heaven or the limits of the sky .


He embedded its Car-ur weapon beside Lagac like a big standard, placed it in its dreadful place, the Cu-galam , and made it emanate fearsome radiance. On the dais of Jirnun , on the place of making judgments, the provider of Lagac lifted his horns like a mighty bull.


Keys here it included in its whole a "Weapon.. Fearsome Radiance" energy that glowed and was known to be deadly .. an energy weapon ?
Again Bull horns ..Why ? because that is what it looked like to them ...this is a descriptive attempt not a scientific explaination .



He built his master´s house exactly as he had been told to. The true shepherd Gudea made it grow so high as to fill the space between heaven and earth, had it wear a tiara shaped like the new moon, and had its fame spread as far as the heart of the highlands. Gudea made Nin-jirsu ´s house come out like the sun from the clouds, had it grow to be like hills of lapis lazuli and had it stand to be marvelled at like hills of white alabaster.


The directions were not from Man but from those in Heaven .. it interacted with the sky ... a tiara shaped like the new moon again bulls horns shape is described ..
This is found through out the region and over thousands of years .




The temple towered upwards in full grandeur, unparallelled in fearsomeness and radiance..............

the house reaches up to heaven like a huge mountain and its fearsomeness and awesome radiance have settled upon the land. An and Enlil have determined the fate of Lagac ; Nin-jirsu´s authority has become known to all the countries; E-ninnu has grown so high as to fill the space between the heaven and the earth. Nin-jirsu be praised!



The key here fearsomeness and radiance ..this is a very good description of what a plasma tap creates an energy stream that can be used for Good or Bad the destructive power of which can not be overstated .. the ORBs that are part of All of there cultures were real objects of technology Not depictions of the Sun .
The only one ever found exhibits a form of repulsion on certain materials and is still beyond our tecnological understanding .
These places did not physically touch the sky they created a field that did and that initiated a plasma stream .. just like lightning if you create an ionized stream for the energy to follow .. it will ... There is much more to substantiate this theory .

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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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SC: Just as it is also a struggle for ANY theory relating to the purpose of the early, giant pyramids. If there existed a number of cross-corroboratory texts that told us the true purpose of these structures then there would be no struggle for anyone as we could then be fairly certain of their true purpose. But there are no texts from the period that tell us unequivocally the true nature and function of these structures. It is for that very reason that Egyptologists struggle to convince a lot of people of their 'tomb theory' and the reason why there still exists so much speculation and alternative theories such as, for example, the 'Recovery Vault Theory (RVT)'.




It's not that much of a struggle, the greater context is that of the Necropolis, with contemporary associated tombs, inscriptions and burial practises, mortuary and valley Temples and boat burials in association with the pyramids themselves, from the time of Unas the pyramid texts.





SC: Feeding workers and priests? I suppose this may be true of the storage silos around the pyramid's perimeter but not of the storage facilities beneath the pyramid since these massive 'Recovery Vaults' had been permanently sealed with their cache of recovery goods. There was no immediate or easy access to them.





At the pyramid of Djoser the evidence does suggest that that many provisions could have been sealed within at his death, but again the earlier noted festivals that also occured at this site might account for this, that it was a focal centre for ingathering abundance.







SC: Written texts notwithstanding, I think it is very clear now that the ancient Egyptians utilised Orion's Belt along with its long-term precessional motion to arrange the Giza pyramid Recovery Vaults in such a manner as to create a precession clock (as shown in the PDF in the OP). I do not think there is any doubt that the Giza pyramid Recovery Vaults were laid down in order to create a precession clock utilising Orion's Belt.



Orions Belt isn't really of any importance when it comes to how precession would have been noted at equinox or solstice yearly rising points along the ecliptic, yes it will have associate and relative positions, but an Orion-centric case overlooks what would have been the primary observations and considerations.


The main concern would have to be the fix of the ecliptic plane, for the date you suggest Leo at the Spring Equinox, in conjuction with the Milky Way/GalacticPlane, which would also thus see the Scorpio intersection point at the Summer Solstice, Gemini/Taurus at the Winter.

That also puts Pisces/Aquarius at the Autumnal equinox, as well as this being in the West opposite Leo at the Spring equinox. Given the Egyptian afterlife journey involved passage along the Nile before embarkation at the Necropoli, and from there the water journey through the Celestial Underworld, the alignment with the Milky Way at Pisces/Aquarius and thus a passageway into the Celestial River, actually provides a better suggestion of motivation for an Egyptian backdated ideal position of the Heavens, than does Orion, especially when the Orion-centric case was made based on the religious revisionism of the Middle Kingdom coffin texts.










We do not need to find a text that tells us that the ancient Egyptians knew how to paint or how to build pyramids. But there they are. I think the precessional knowledge exhibited in the arrangement of the Giza pyramid Recovery Vaults is highly compelling circumstantial evidence that such knowledge was known to the designers and builders of Giza.




I would think the concern with backdating seen in such examples as the Turin King list better circumstantional evidence for an interest in them conjecturing an idealized period and arrangement of the Heavens, the Sumerians provide the best evidence that this would have been concievable and readily understandable for the period, historical texts and understanding of the mechanics of their Celestial mythologies thus potentialy making a better case.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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Don't forget the lions...





In the dream there was someone who was as enormous as the heaven, who was as enormous as the earth. His head was like that of a god, his wings were like those of the Anzud bird, his lower body was like a flood storm. Lions were lying at his right and his left. He spoke to me about building his house, but I could not understand what he exactly meant, then daylight rose for me on the horizon.

´Then there was a woman - whoever she was. She ...... sheaves. She held a stylus of refined silver in her hand, and placed it on a tablet with propitious stars, and was consulting it.





















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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 08:49 PM
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Little more to this then you all think.
But that is for another day.

Cheers,
K



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 04:52 AM
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Originally posted by Kantzveldt


SC: Just as it is also a struggle for ANY theory relating to the purpose of the early, giant pyramids. If there existed a number of cross-corroboratory texts that told us the true purpose of these structures then there would be no struggle for anyone as we could then be fairly certain of their true purpose. But there are no texts from the period that tell us unequivocally the true nature and function of these structures. It is for that very reason that Egyptologists struggle to convince a lot of people of their 'tomb theory' and the reason why there still exists so much speculation and alternative theories such as, for example, the 'Recovery Vault Theory (RVT)'.


Kantzveldt: It's not that much of a struggle, the greater context is that of the Necropolis, with contemporary associated tombs, inscriptions and burial practises, mortuary and valley Temples and boat burials in association with the pyramids themselves, from the time of Unas the pyramid texts.


SC: There are certainly many mastabas and some rock-cut tombs on the Giza plateau. There are many graves with headstones in a cemetery but that does not make the church the biggest tomb. Given the purpose of the Gizamids as 'instruments of rebirth' for the kingdom (not the king) then it is perfectly understandable that they would be regarded as sacred icons of rebirth and would attract mastaba burials close to them on the sacred ground. Just as a the entrance into a modern church is regarded as entering into the 'womb of Christ' to be reborn through Christ. It's a similar concept. Over and above which, mastabas (so we are told) evolved into the pyramid. Except mastaba tombs - without exception - were rectangular whereas pyramids were square. Even Djoser's Step Pyramid at Saqqara started off as a square. It was only made into a rectangle by extending the base to seal the shaft entrances to the storage vaults (the 11 underground galleries). If you are a king of ancient Egypt, the last place you will wish to place your mortal remains is within the most highly visible structure for miles around. Conversely, that is PRECISELY what you would require as a pyramid Recovery Vault.


SC: Feeding workers and priests? I suppose this may be true of the storage silos around the pyramid's perimeter but not of the storage facilities beneath the pyramid since these massive 'Recovery Vaults' had been permanently sealed with their cache of recovery goods. There was no immediate or easy access to them.


Kantzveldt: At the pyramid of Djoser the evidence does suggest that that many provisions could have been sealed within at his death, but again the earlier noted festivals that also occured at this site might account for this, that it was a focal centre for ingathering abundance.

SC: Except no body was ever found - just 40,000 storage vessels and large quantities of wheat, barley and other seeds. Sed festivals would not require the burial of so many artifacts and large quantities of seed deep under the pyramid. However, this is PRECISELY what would be required as a Recovery Vault. We are fortunate indeed that this cache got left behind in the Step Pyramid for it enables us to piece together the true function of these early, giant pyramids. Furthermore, as we can see from mastaba tombs of the time and from later rock-cut tombs such as that of King Tut, the AEs knew what symbolic amounts of 'grave goods' were - and they were no where near the vast quantities stored under Djoser's pyramid.


SC: Written texts notwithstanding, I think it is very clear now that the ancient Egyptians utilised Orion's Belt along with its long-term precessional motion to arrange the Giza pyramid Recovery Vaults in such a manner as to create a precession clock (as shown in the PDF in the OP). I do not think there is any doubt that the Giza pyramid Recovery Vaults were laid down in order to create a precession clock utilising Orion's Belt.


Kantzveldt: Orions Belt isn't really of any importance when it comes to how precession would have been noted at equinox or solstice yearly rising points along the ecliptic, yes it will have associate and relative positions, but an Orion-centric case overlooks what would have been the primary observations and considerations.

SC: Well that depends exactly on what it is you are trying to convey with these stars. Do you think it is merely coincidental that the Orion Belt stars can, in a simple and systematic fashion, reproduce the relative base proportions of the three main Gizamids? Do you consider it merely coincidental that the other two sets of three pyramids at Giza - the so-called Queens - depict the two culminations of the Belt stars at ca. 10,500 BCE AND ca. 2,500AD. These 'markers' do not just mark the past but also the future. It is a precession timeline split precisely at its centre by the Sphinx to mark C.3,980 BCE.

SC
















posted on May, 7 2012 @ 08:55 AM
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SC: There are certainly many mastabas and some rock-cut tombs on the Giza plateau. There are many graves with headstones in a cemetery but that does not make the church the biggest tomb. Given the purpose of the Gizamids as 'instruments of rebirth' for the kingdom (not the king) then it is perfectly understandable that they would be regarded as sacred icons of rebirth and would attract mastaba burials close to them on the sacred ground. Just as a the entrance into a modern church is regarded as entering into the 'womb of Christ' to be reborn through Christ. It's a similar concept. Over and above which, mastabas (so we are told) evolved into the pyramid. Except mastaba tombs - without exception - were rectangular whereas pyramids were square. Even Djoser's Step Pyramid at Saqqara started off as a square. It was only made into a rectangle by extending the base to seal the shaft entrances to the storage vaults (the 11 underground galleries). If you are a king of ancient Egypt, the last place you will wish to place your mortal remains is within the most highly visible structure for miles around. Conversely, that is PRECISELY what you would require as a pyramid Recovery Vault.


The comparison with a Church will only go so far, in that whilst Baptismal Rite does celebrate a ritual dying to be born again in Christ, he himself ascended into the Heavens, so there is no aspect of the Church as tomb.

The Egyptian Pyramid is associated with the daily rebirth of Re and other astral Deities, as the soul of a deceased King was daily reborn as an aspect of such, thus the generative powers behind the Kingdom would be understood as strenghtened and reborn to some degree through the pyramids and their respective Royal cults.

The rulers of Southern/.Meso/Central America had no issue with placing their deceased rulers beneath or within large prominent monuments or mounds, neither did the Chinese or Northern Europeans etc



SC: Except no body was ever found - just 40,000 storage vessels and large quantities of wheat, barley and other seeds. Sed festivals would not require the burial of so many artifacts and large quantities of seed deep under the pyramid. However, this is PRECISELY what would be required as a Recovery Vault. We are fortunate indeed that this cache got left behind in the Step Pyramid for it enables us to piece together the true function of these early, giant pyramids. Furthermore, as we can see from mastaba tombs of the time and from later rock-cut tombs such as that of King Tut, the AEs knew what symbolic amounts of 'grave goods' were - and they were no where near the vast quantities stored under Djoser's pyramid.



Liike i said, it's plausible large quantities of storage vessels had been brought to Saqqara at the times of other ongoing rites held there and stored/put aside after usage, then sealed in with the King, or that in the first complex which is similar in style to the Sumerian ziggurat precincts, they had initialy also emulated the ingathering and storage aspects after the Sumerian manner at Saqqara.



SC: Well that depends exactly on what it is you are trying to convey with these stars. Do you think it is merely coincidental that the Orion Belt stars can, in a simple and systematic fashion, reproduce the relative base proportions of the three main Gizamids? Do you consider it merely coincidental that the other two sets of three pyramids at Giza - the so-called Queens - depict the two culminations of the Belt stars at ca. 10,500 BCE AND ca. 2,500AD. These 'markers' do not just mark the past but also the future. It is a precession timeline split precisely at its centre by the Sphinx to mark C.3,980 BCE.



Those stars give basic/symbolic fixing positions for the intersection of the ecliptic plane with the Galactic Plane at solstice/equinox points and thus entirely determine projected Heavenly cycles or Great Ages. Worldwide cultures have adopted this Celestial cross/axis as the framework for their astronomy/astrolgy because it is readily observable and understandable.

At Giza you are looking at what would be secondary and localized considerations over a limited period of time, ie during the 5th Dynasty, if Orion has been taken into account, compared with the above model. I've certainly nothing against this in principle, the relative position of associate constellations in conjunction with the major juxtapositions, but have found the Orion-centric claims lacking and misleading, in that they suggested a great mystery concerned with Orion, whereas that doesn't carry through into a broader outlook of Egyptian culture over time and worldwide cultures.

In terms of a localized cult, for the Old Kingdom Period, the most likely is that of a Sokar/Orion concern, which predates the Middle Kingdom association of Sokar with Osiris and Osiris with Sah. Saqqara takes it's name from Sokar, and this Deity is well attested at Giza, as well as being considered the tutelary Deity of this Necropolis also, in terms of Sokar of Rostau.

There is evidence for what would have been related to this cult of Sokar-Orion from later periods, when seen as Sokar-Osiris.





Thus, on Khoiak 26th, king Sokar-Osiris or the Ancient One can become the New Horus, "the one whose right eye is the sun and the left the moon". This second phase of resurrection proclaims a king identified to the creator guarantor of the maintenance of creation and its two cycles, diurnal and nocturnal. Moreover, the 26th of Khoiak corresponds roughly to Orion's entry of its 90 days of visibility in the west.

The agrarian calendar perfectly defines the liturgy: the onions planted at the end of September and picked at the end of October are heralding the arrival of the light and are going to be transplanted in the land to be ready to be chewed at the time of the festival of Bastet, February 5th, as all snakes come out of their hibernation and when the swallows begin to return announcing the summer sun. The small onions, early fruits and vegetables, inhaled to receive a new breath at the time of the ntryt-night, having germinated during the winter period, become witnesses to a source of rebirth to a chthonian life, with the image of a living Sokar in a cave and carrying the solar star in the Duat. The solarisation or light created the 25th and 26th of Khoiak leads to a stellar design (or darkness with appearance of the constellation of Orion). The festival of Bastet, at the end of the Sokarian cycle




Onions of Sokar





Sokar was undoubtedly originally a distinct deity of the Memphite necropolis: r3-sT3.w "Giza" (like the name of this List's server "Rostau" though I would have spelled if "Rosetjau") and pD.w "Saqqara", the modern name of which is believed to come from that of Sokar. There is a possibility that he was actually transplanted to the Memphite region from Busiris or some other Delta location. He represented the fertility that lies at the bottom of the underworld as well as the minerals and vegetal produce of the earth. He was carried on a boat known as the Henu-barque which had the form of a the crescent moon. His stellar manifestation was that of Orion.




Sokar as Orion


I realsie that onions weren't quite what Bauval and Hancock had in mind when they suggested people look toward Orion and commence the woo-woo dance, but there you go...






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