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Kids fingerprinted at school!

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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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I remember cops taking my fingerprints more than one time in grade school. 1982-1986 Ill bet they come to my school 2 or 3 times to take our prints. I was at a private school so I dont know if the public schools did this.




posted on May, 6 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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One thing that I find hard to comprehend about the general threads here is that while the majority of American posters here are overwhelmingly conservative in poltical ideology, that is American conservatism, which is very different from European conservatism. Any way. Whenever something outrageous occurs within one of the states you all become heavily upset, making it seem as if the entire country is going to bits. But isn't that the price of your ideology? You want different states, with their policy, their "little laws" and "customs". So then, if that is the case, why all the upset?
Then on the other hand, when the Federal State does something, it's never good either.

You guys just hate government right?



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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I was fingerprinted in 2001 as a first grader so they could "find me if I go missing."



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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I was fingerprinted in the 1st and 3rd grade..... In Troutdale Oregon and im 43 now. They have been doing this along time. Its not a big deal



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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It would be a big deal if it were my children.

Imagine if the nazis had fingerprints or dna of all the people they wanted to liquidate. There would be lists today of all the ones they still wanted to catch. (that's an exaggerration but you know what I mean)



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by semperkill
Im so pissed right now. Just looked at the school schedule that was given out on Friday May 5th. One thing stood out. County school fingerprinting schedule. They scheduled 2 days One on May 2nd and the other on May 17th. I asked my son if he was fingerprinted he is 5 and didnt really understand. I then asked him if he ever had ink put on his fingers. He said no but on wednsday he had to make a butterfly on a blank piece of paper with his hands. He said that the teacher asked him what his name and birthday was. He asked her why she wants to know its already written on the bottom of the paper. I asked him to show me this paper since on fridays he always bring everything home. I mean everything. Not much "artwork" is going on.
To me this is akin to when the kids have tours of police station and the officer "shows them" how they fingerprint.
My daughter "she is older" told me that the teacher said all the older kids were to be fingerprinted later in the month. WTF! Is anyone is going this. Is this a normal school activity?


Once again...File a UCC-1 and claim your children FROM the state creation. You put the birth certificate number on the collateral box and then take the birth certificate or a copy and write, in RED INK...Nulland VOID. Take it to the county recorder along with your UCC-1 and tell them that you want the "Trust" account number and that your child is NOT a creation of the state and they do not have jurisdiction.

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Downlaod the above link AND READ IT!!! ALL the forms you need and all the information on how to do it is in there. The SOONER we all get on the same page and understand WHAT has been done to STEAL our identity and our children, and th SOONER we stop the "government" from stealing from us any further, the better of we will be.

PLEASE READ THE LINK!!!!



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Well, back when I was around 5 (20 years ago), I too was fingerprinted in kindergarten.

In our case, not sure if this is the same for your children, it was to have our information on file in case we were abducted. They logged all the information, our birthdays, full names, phone numbers and addresses. And they did not have to get parental consent.

A few weeks later our parents received an info packet that had copies of all the info they had taken and an "at home" finger printing kit. My younger brother and sister did the same thing.

Have you tried calling the school to ask what was going on and why?



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 03:59 PM
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If "Behind me" is in the USA, then i guess i will be done fast...


Originally posted by Romekje
From now on i'm just gonna copy/paste the same response to any of these kind of threads...

THE USA IS COLLECTIVELY GOING NUTS!!!



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by apoc36
This is actually nothing new. I remember when I was in second grade. I was fingerprinted in my school, they actually made it fun, lol with the cops talking to the students. All my classmates were fingerprinted and this was 28 years ago and I live in a small hick town in West Virginia.

They do this so they can have everyone's fingerprints on file. It makes it easier for them later in years to catch a criminal if they already have the persons prints on file.

I actually think its a good idea for them to do this. If your kid is going to become a criminal later in life then they already have his / her greedy little fingerprints.


You have no clue of the 4th amendment. Why not just put everyone in a prison camp from age 5 on? Crime would go down, eh?

CJ



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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Well, to everyone who says finger printing was done to them when they were in school and it was no big deal, I'm a bit older and it was NEVER done in any school I was in. Let me think, twelve schools in all, over three states. You're going to say there were no weirdos and pervs back then, but you are wrong. I can think back over the years of chilling cases of abduction and/or murder committed against young people. (See Charles Manson, Barbara Mackle, Elmer Wayne Henley, and the I-45 Corridor Murders, for starters.)

If I had a kid, there is no way I would willingly let their finger prints be taken. Want to identify a lost child? Take his DNA and match it to the parents seeking a child answering that description.

Now, decades later I'm a nurse and the state of Texas wants to finger print all nurses by a certain date. When I asked at work why this would be done, the reply was, "To prevent fraud, of course!" I asked if employers were planning on having the capability to take finger prints of applicants and would the employers have finger print readers? The answer was a meek, um.. no... Well, how would this prevent fraud? No answer. In fact, how would they know I was not committing fraud when I went to get fingerprinted since my I.D. could be fake? No answer.

Call me paranoid, but it's not about child safety, or crime prevention. It's about getting identifying marks logged into the system. Think how long the tattoo craze has lasted. Permanent identity marks on the sheep.

Time will tell, and truthfully, I hope I am very wrong.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by MindFever
You guys just hate government right?


The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


The above is quoted for personal truth. My feelings about the government closely paralel my thoughts on a bad case of the clap. As a result, I feel for the OP here. I've butted heads with my son's school this year about some various data mining, reaching exercises and an attempt at a vaccination. Ultimately, I found the only two options were to either place my kids in private schools (which is fairly cost prohibitive at this time) or get involved in a big way. Thus, the wife and I are daily classroom visitors, volunteers, PTA members, and considering running for the board. Nobody farts in that school without us knowing about beforehand.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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Fingerprinting is not really new, I remember back in about '94/95 some classes being fingerprinted. Just wait till more jobs start requiring it. I had a low-level casino job that required finger printing just to clock in. They took your prints and 98% of the time the machine never worked and allowed you to clock in anyway after 3 failed attempts. WTF was the point of the prints then?



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by Biigs
If the prints are being recorded, just for general data banks to hold?

All persons entering the sates have all ten fingers scanned so it does not surprise me to find out that on top of your photo for ID being taken, the gov wants prints, weight, tattoos or any anything else from their own citizens.

If it does in fact reduce crime or terrorism its really very hard to complain about it, from a personnel privacy stand point.


There is an axiom - Those willing to sacrifice liberty for the sake of safety deserve neither. (Some say it was Jefferson quoting Franklin - you can find it attributed to both men in many variations.)

Anyway, people entering the US are scanned to ensure they are not currently wanted by another country's or our own law enforcement. Children need not be scanned unless the consent of the parent is given, and in my case only would I say yes if there were some probable cause to justify this seizure of personal information.

I am a veteran so my DNA and that of my wife and child are on file along with our fingerprints - this was required for foreign travel on orders. That said, I'll be damned before I'd let the local school do it - even if only on principle.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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I'm 25 years old and when I was in the first grade I was finger printed along with the rest of the school. Some of the people you go to school with, no matter what school you attend, will grow up to be criminals, there's no doubt about that. This is something that's there not to further enslave us, but to actually help to protect us against people who commit crimes.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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Please explain how fingerprinting children will stop crime.

CJ



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by ColoradoJens

Originally posted by apoc36
This is actually nothing new. I remember when I was in second grade. I was fingerprinted in my school, they actually made it fun, lol with the cops talking to the students. All my classmates were fingerprinted and this was 28 years ago and I live in a small hick town in West Virginia.

They do this so they can have everyone's fingerprints on file. It makes it easier for them later in years to catch a criminal if they already have the persons prints on file.

I actually think its a good idea for them to do this. If your kid is going to become a criminal later in life then they already have his / her greedy little fingerprints.


You have no clue of the 4th amendment. Why not just put everyone in a prison camp from age 5 on? Crime would go down, eh?

CJ


lol yeah because taking people's finger prints is the same thing as putting people in prison camps



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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i didnt say it would prevent crime. i'm saying it will help to catch criminals who do



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 05:29 PM
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Don't look for ink anymore, it's more like a scanner.

They tell you it's if your child comes up missing. Good idea, right? It's all good if only YOU have the fingerprints and give them to the authorities IF your child should come up missing. In the meantime, those prints have become part of a database. It's like going into the military nowadays. It was bad enough when they finderprinted you in the old days, NOW they want your DNA, just in case they need to verify your body ... or what's left of it.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 05:30 PM
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I remember doing the same thing when i was really young. Guessing they do that to put you in the system? I didn't know they were still doing that. huh.. We live in crazy times.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 05:42 PM
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Today: Fingerprints.
Tomorrow: TSA scans required to enter the school.

Trust me, it will happen.




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