Originally posted by VoidHawk
I stated much earlier in this thread that getting kids prints does not stop crime. I didnt know then that MANY of you were printed years ago. Didi it stop crime No. Did it give corporate employers more data on you Yes.

OP. For the sake of your kids Complain!!! its got nothing to do with crime.

Those fingerprints will help catalog all of us when we're placed in FEMA camps. This country is swinging so far to the right, passing fascism and right to totalitarian. Fingerprinting, spying, detaining, The Patriot Act and the National Defense Authorization Act, etc.

All Hail Obama!

Oh god

DRAMA!

I did this same thing in Kindergarten, back in the early 1980s!

What happens if your kid is kidnapped? Oh can't go to the cops, dear me no, they are "THE MAN!" Can't trust them!

Whatcha gonna do? Hire Liam Neesen to rescue your tot?

Now, I like a good conspiracy, even believe some have serious credence. But let's not be too paranoid....

I was fingerprinted in what probably, 3rd grade, 1983. For us it was when child abductions were on the rise (well maybe they were just reported more). Those finger prints, as far as I know, weren't forwarded to anybody. Just kept so if you wnet missing, they had a print to compare to anything that came up in the investigations (or probably also if they found your corpse!).

I've had to give my fingerprints for the following reasons.

When I was enlisting in the Armed Forces (First time was 1991 and they did each time!, you think they were "catalogued" but no..., and the last time I tried that was 2000), think I tried getting in 3 or 4 times.

I think in 1989 when I did my drivers license, but maybe not.

When I went to Europe on the International AIr Cadet Exchance 1993.

Other functions I did in the Civil Air Patrol.

When I became a foster parent 2002 (background check).

If I ever get around to getting a concealed carry permit i have to pay myself to have another set sent to Oklahoma Bureau of Investigation, to make sure I am not a known criminal....

And probably half a dozen other times. Now, by now, I would assume/think that there is a copy somewhere with the FBI, but anytime you need to do certain background checks they have to take them, and send them in to compare to the known charge/convicted felon lists. But because of that, it seems unlikely that the "FEDS" even keep all the ones sent to them, just tell the initiating agency whether those prints match up to a bad guy. Maybe they do keep them, but, if you plan to "live life" or hold a job above minimum wage or skill set it's likely your going to have to give up your fingerprints at some point.

They fingerprinted us when I was back in school in the 80s. They also put the child's picture with the fingerprint. I think it's just a precaution for the school in case a child goes missing. Or they can identify a child if something were to happen at the school.

I was fingerprinted in school 35 years ago. Its a normal practice. It's supposed to help your kids if they get kidnapped or something to that effect.

Originally posted by SrWingCommander
And probably half a dozen other times. Now, by now, I would assume/think that there is a copy somewhere with the FBI, but anytime you need to do certain background checks they have to take them, and send them in to compare to the known charge/convicted felon lists. But because of that, it seems unlikely that the "FEDS" even keep all the ones sent to them....

They don't. Agencies requesting a background check may keep copies, especially if they know a re-investigation will be required, but neither the FBI nor the Federal Investigative Services keep fingerprints submitted solely for backgrounds (except for certain national security positions). If they did, it would make my life a whole lot easier.

And they definitely don't keep those childhood anti-kidnapping fingerprints and use them for the benefit of "corporate employers" or "FEMA camps." I'm not even sure how that's supposed to work.

If given advanced warning I would keep my daughter out of school those days. Also explain to her no to give her fingerprints. Just say "no" even if she gets at trouble at school she won't be at home. I am involved in my daughters day to day school activities. What they teach is scary! I can't fight the system and win but I can surely teach my daughter the truth at home.

From what I read, it appears that this post has the member's kids getting fingerprinted and done without parents prior knowledge of this occurring wow, I am surprised that the States or at least, a state or county has decided to do things without prior parents knowledge or consent. I find it strange and saddening if this is occurring because then it will happen in Canada in about two or three years. Lets hope not...

If its happened where you live, sorry there should have been other signs- go out, move, vacate the premises, some things nitche right in Denmark...

Taking the fingerprints without the parental consent is really alarming. More communication from the schools/police or whoever is involved may have supplied a simple and explanation as to why.

I also seem to have read that for about 40 years now the "Agpar" tests (heel pricks) performed on newborn babies is kept for DNA purposes. No matter how much we try to keep away from it a file with our knowledge is being built up on each of us.

My school system has never done this.

The only exception is if the parents order one of the missing child cards, then they put the child's fingerprint under their pic, add their height , weight, and eye color. But the parents have to order these cards in advance.

Have you called the school to ask why they are doing this?

I would think a DNA swab would be more effective anyway

No no no, it's just to help the children, that's why they collect all that data. That's also why they want to control what the children eat at school, and why they want to censor much of the Internet, and suspend first graders for singing lyrics from a song in an m&ms commercial, and why they give electroshock therapy to autistic children that dont listen, And why they are trying to ban kids from running around At recess, and why they are vaccinating kids without parental consent (if the teenager/preteen says its ok) And god forbid children even Innocently touch a member of the opposite sex and not get charged with sexual harassment, It's all just to protect the children

(all that stuff is strictly at school only, that's Only the tip of the iceberg)

It's always about protecting the children
Who would argue against that?

Rather it's for a good cause or not, your consent means nothing. The sooner you realize that the children aren't yours, and belong to the state, the sooner they can get on with the autonomous technocratic takeover and everyone will be safe. Some will just be safer than others, as it's always been

Mmmkay?

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but this will help in case if the child goes missing or is kidnapped or something happens to them so they can be able to identify the child easier.

However, they still don't have the right or any real legal means to do so. They still need parental permission and just can't do anything like this.

I sense a lawsuit.

Another way for Uncle Sam to get you in his data base. Not my kids. Not going to happen while I still have breath in my lungs.

I thought kids were always fingerprinted at school? When I was in elementary school some 13 years ago, I and everyone else was fingerprinted.