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How do democrats plan to promote job creation for all businesses not just small business ?

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posted on May, 5 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Hello my question is How do democrats plan to promote job creation for all businesses not just small business ? Big businesses can create jobs too in America like Microsoft Apple and IBM from what I read Microsoft and other big businesses did well and created jobs in the 1990's when the Democrat Bill Clinton was President what did he do to promote job creation among both small and big businesses ? I know that Democrats say we need Consumer Spending to help help Economic Growth ? I hear some people say that we need Infrastructure Spending to help Consumer Spending when did John Maynard Keynes ever talk about this thank you ?

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posted on May, 5 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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When a democrat talks about "job creation", they mean "government jobs." They count those as jobs even though they are in reality negative jobs in the grand economic scheme of things. Democrats don't know the first thing about job creation in the private sector.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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You know, if they would just extend those tax cuts on the rich, the job-makers would rain jobs down upon us.



No, but seriously, the jobs will ONLY return when Americans accept FAR lower wages and disregard having ANY sort of protection for the environment they live in. THEN and only then can we compete with the developing world.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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Isn't big business what caused these problems? If so then wouldn't be better to promote small business, seeing as big business also seems to send its jobs over seas.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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The best way for government to promote job creation is to get out of the job creation business!

Government wasn't created to make jobs.

That's what a free-market system is supposed to do.

Government's responsibility is to fight wars, deliver mail, and keep the roads up.

Any more than that and it's an intrusion onto society.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 03:51 PM
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Have to agree there Government does not create anything they only thing they do is destroy.

Big business is thriving in China just ask them how well trickle down economics work.

The private sector creates wealth and jobs the only thing Government does is tax that wealth-destroy it.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7
You know, if they would just extend those tax cuts on the rich, the job-makers would rain jobs down upon us.



No, but seriously, the jobs will ONLY return when Americans accept FAR lower wages and disregard having ANY sort of protection for the environment they live in. THEN and only then can we compete with the developing world.


You are wrong. Taxes and overregulation kills small business in this country, among other things. I can tell you that as a business owner, if I didn't pay so much in taxes, I would be able to hire at least one more hourly person. That is a 10% increase in employment at my business. You should see the quarterly check I have to cut to the government every month, knowing full well it is going to be squandered on God knows what.

By the way, it is not our responsibility to lower our standard of living to meet that of third-world countries'. It is their responsibility to raise theirs to ours. You are simply buying into the socialist narrative coming from your TV.


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posted on May, 5 2012 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM


By the way, it is not our responsibility to lower our standard of living to meet that of third-world countries'. It is their responsibility to raise theirs to ours. .


LOL. I don;t know about 'responsibility', i'm just giving you the handwriting on the wall. Manufacturing jobs pretty much left the US because operations costs were too high. The most 'socialist' thin I could think is requiring companies to raise wages if it isnt profitable. I think YOU might be the socialist.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by mikejohnson2006
 
The best way for government to promote job creation is to get out of the job creation business!

Government wasn't created to make jobs.

That's what a free-market system is supposed to do.

Government's responsibility is to fight wars, deliver mail, and keep the roads up.

Any more than that and it's an intrusion onto society.



What tripe. The 'free market' doesnt exist, and never has.

You repeat partisan talking points, not truth.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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It used to exist. That was before government meddling though.

Governrment doesn't make things better. Government exists to make government bigger.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 04:08 PM
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Mike, your question seems to imply you buy into the left/right paradigm of Democrats vs Republicans.

Am I reading you wrong? Do you think Republican policies will benefit small businesses better than Democrat policies?

How, specifically?



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
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It used to exist. That was before government meddling though.


When , neo? When did the 'free market' exist? When was this golden age of freedom you refer to?



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by beezzer
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It used to exist. That was before government meddling though.


When , neo? When did the 'free market' exist? When was this golden age of freedom you refer to?


First off, I take that "Neo" remark with pride, he's a friend.

Second, the core of free market exists now. Only most can't see it under the ton of red tape provided and paid for by the tax payers.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by AwakeinNM


By the way, it is not our responsibility to lower our standard of living to meet that of third-world countries'. It is their responsibility to raise theirs to ours. .


LOL. I don;t know about 'responsibility', i'm just giving you the handwriting on the wall. Manufacturing jobs pretty much left the US because operations costs were too high. The most 'socialist' thin I could think is requiring companies to raise wages if it isnt profitable. I think YOU might be the socialist.




I just explained to you why this is not a business-friendly country, and you wonder why manufacturing jobs left? Why were operating costs too high? Union wages and benefits have anything to do with it? Let's not forget all the other unionized industries like construction that have driven up prices, leaving consumers less discretionary income. I think people would rather buy quality American-made merchandise sometimes, rather than the disposable walmart crap, but disposable is all that is left because no one has any money to buy quality any more.

By the way, if your reading comprehension were any good, you'd know that I didn't call YOU a socialist.
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posted on May, 5 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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The free market existed right up until Wilson the Democrat created the Federal Reserve

How bout that partisanship eh?



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by stanguilles7
You know, if they would just extend those tax cuts on the rich, the job-makers would rain jobs down upon us.



No, but seriously, the jobs will ONLY return when Americans accept FAR lower wages and disregard having ANY sort of protection for the environment they live in. THEN and only then can we compete with the developing world.


You are wrong. Taxes and overregulation kills small business in this country, among other things. I can tell you that as a business owner, if I didn't pay so much in taxes, I would be able to hire at least one more hourly person. That is a 10% increase in employment at my business. You should see the quarterly check I have to cut to the government every month, knowing full well it is going to be squandered on God knows what.

By the way, it is not our responsibility to lower our standard of living to meet that of third-world countries'. It is their responsibility to raise theirs to ours. You are simply buying into the socialist narrative coming from your TV.


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Just think how many more you could hire if the minimum wage was lowered. Or eradicated altogether. The minimum wage is, ironically, a large factor of unemployment.

/TOA



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 07:27 PM
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I was always told to vote for the Democrats over the Republicans because people told me that at least the Democrats support Progressive Taxation. Can you or anyone else give or know a reason why higher taxes on the Rich or the Wealthy is wrong thank you for your reply to my thread ? I did read this by Ron Paul. Tell me if you agree.

Tax Cuts and Class Wars

by Rep. Ron Paul, MD


The class war tactic highlights what the left does best: divide Americans into groups. Collectivists see all issues of wealth and taxation as a zero-sum game played between competing groups. If one group gets a tax break, other groups must be rallied against it — even if such a cut would ultimately benefit them. Yet the class warriors forget that American wealth is not static, but rather very dynamic. Poor people become rich, and rich people lose all of their money. In fact, at no time in American history have more of the nation's wealthy earned rather than inherited their money. Rich family dynasties are increasingly rare, and are quickly destroyed by unproductive spendthrift generations. So when the left attacks the rich, they're attacking a fluid group that many poor Americans hope to join someday by moving up in life. Upward mobility is possible only in a free-market capitalist system, whereas collectivism dooms the poor to remain exactly where they are.

www.lewrockwell.com...



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 07:34 PM
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mike, are you basing your concerns on Boehner's claims about taxes on the rich hurting 'small business owners'?



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by The Old American

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by stanguilles7
You know, if they would just extend those tax cuts on the rich, the job-makers would rain jobs down upon us.



No, but seriously, the jobs will ONLY return when Americans accept FAR lower wages and disregard having ANY sort of protection for the environment they live in. THEN and only then can we compete with the developing world.


You are wrong. Taxes and overregulation kills small business in this country, among other things. I can tell you that as a business owner, if I didn't pay so much in taxes, I would be able to hire at least one more hourly person. That is a 10% increase in employment at my business. You should see the quarterly check I have to cut to the government every month, knowing full well it is going to be squandered on God knows what.

By the way, it is not our responsibility to lower our standard of living to meet that of third-world countries'. It is their responsibility to raise theirs to ours. You are simply buying into the socialist narrative coming from your TV.


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Just think how many more you could hire if the minimum wage was lowered. Or eradicated altogether. The minimum wage is, ironically, a large factor of unemployment.

/TOA


That isn't much of a factor for small businesses like mine, but it adds up big when you are talking about companies like WalMart. I think minimum wages would set themselves at a decent level in a strong economy, but in a weak economy they would be very low if there were no minimum. Even now in this crappy economy companies are getting away with paying the bare minimum. For example, there is a call center near my house that used to start people at $15 an hour 5 years ago because there was a shortage of workers. Now those same jobs start at $9 or $10 an hour.


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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 01:14 AM
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Mike, getting rich is not illegal in this country. In fact, it is a lot of peoples' goal to get rich and be the master of their destiny because it is one of the few countries on the planet where it is actually achievable.

Also do not forget that rich people have a lot of discretionary income to spend on goods and services that employ a lot of people. Cut the demand for those and you cut employment for those business sectors. That happens when you eliminate everyone's discretionary income, not just rich people.



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