reply to post by gwydionblack
I will gladly debate the points you have raised:
-EPA-It is trendy these days to claim that the EPA does nothing. And the truth is, reform is greatly needed. I can tell you, as a FACT, however, that
the EPA has a history of being a VERY effective agency, and while it has definitely fallen into the system of bureaucracy, it is the reason that, here
in oregon, the paper mills, creosote plants, refineries, and sewage treatment plants do not dump DIRECTLY into the Willamette and Columbia Rivers, as
they did before the EPA. Reform the EPA? Absolutely. get rid of it? You have got to be Friggin kidding me.
-Funding to schools-one thing that RP, and his followers, fail to take into account when making the argument "what do you think they did before they
had funding?", is that the population of this country has risen astronomically since that time. There are far more people, and, thus, far more
students in school. Communities simply could not fund schools as they have to be now. You think classroom sizes are bad now? Wait until communites are
left to fund themselves, and thus, have one building for each section (k-5, 6-8. 9-12). How productive will a classroom of 500 students be? Of
-Foreign Ec-Non-intervention is great, especially when it comes to armed conflict. I am a believer that aggression should only be used in defense.
However, there are many people that would, simply put, not be alive without american foreign aid. You ask how it has helped Africa? Some estimates
have the number as high as 500 million deaths if america cut aid to africa.
-Abortion-I have created a thread Re: Rp and abortion. I believe he intends to do away with it altogether. I believe that the states-rights argument
in this case is a smokescreen. It is a topic that I learned in the thread that i created, is not worth debating. I am strongly pro-choice. I support
Roe v. Wade. I simply will not be convinced to feel otherwise, regardless of the justifications and attempts do change it through the back door. .
This is one topic I will not budge on.
-Debt Default-No, it is not inevitable. There are viable, economic ways out of this. It will take a very long time, but it is doable. Defaulting on
debt, however, will ruin america. Its another subject that gets overlooked by RP followers. If america defaults on debt, what do you think happens to
its international standing? To all of the imports, and exports that are the very lifeblood of america? What do you think happens when the dollar is
dropped internationally? Think gas is spendy now? Wait until oil is no longer priced based on the dollar. Furthermore, consider who the largest holder
of that debt is. Social Security. That means you and I.
-Impotence on issues-my issue with this is, the guy has NEVER gotten anything that he has wanted, done. What would lead me to believe this will change
if he gets into the whitehouse? Promises are great, but he has done NOTHING to show that he can actually accomplish ANYTHING.
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