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Ethically speaking, vegetables get all the glory. In recent years, vegetarians — and to an even greater degree vegans, their hard-core inner circle — have dominated the discussion about the ethics of eating. From the philosopher Peter Singer, whose 1975 volume “Animal Liberation” galvanized an international movement, to the novelist Jonathan Safran Foer, who wrote the 2009 best seller “Eating Animals,” those who forswear meat have made the case that what we eat is a crucial ethical decision. To be just, they say, we must put down our cheeseburgers and join their ranks.
In response, those who love meat have had surprisingly little to say. They say, of course, that, well, they love meat or that meat is deeply ingrained in our habit or culture or cuisine or that it’s nutritious or that it’s just part of the natural order. Some of the more conscientious carnivores have devoted themselves to enhancing the lives of livestock, by improving what those animals eat, how they live and how they are killed. But few have tried to answer the fundamental ethical issue: Whether it is right to eat animals in the first place, at least when human survival is not at stake.
Is it ethical to eat meat? That short question, posed in these pages a few weeks ago, inspired a debate heated enough to roast a fatted calf (or a really enormous zucchini, depending on your dietary orientation).
To encourage omnivores to do some of the same hard thinking that vegetarians and vegans have done, I invited them to make, in 600 words or fewer, the strongest ethical case for the meat they eat. And to judge those arguments I gathered some of the strongest ethical critics of meat, or at least of the way we consume it — Mark Bittman, Jonathan Safran Foer, Andrew Light, Michael Pollan and Peter Singer.
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As a vegetarian who returned to meat-eating, I find the question “Is meat-eating ethical?” one that is in my head and heart constantly. The reasons I became a vegetarian, then a vegan and then again a conscientious meat-eater were all ethical. The ethical reasons of why NOT to eat meat are obvious: animals are raised and killed in cruel conditions; grain that could feed hungry people is fed to animals; the need for pasture fuels deforestation; and by eating meat, one is implicated in the killing of a sentient being. Except for the last reason, however, none of these aspects of eating meat are implicit in eating meat, yet they are exactly what make eating some meat unethical. Which leads to my main argument: eating meat raised in specific circumstances is ethical; eating meat raised in other circumstances is unethical. Just as eating vegetables, tofu or grain raised in certain circumstances is ethical and those produced in other ways is unethical.
Originally posted by boymonkey74
If the animals did not want to be eaten they would evolve to taste nasty and if we did stop eating meat how many cows etc would there be? not many apart from zoos
Good thread S&F.
Originally posted by Havick007
reply to post by Ericthenewbie
It's not about Ethics...
It's about evolution and survival. We wouldn't be the people we are today without the vitamins we gained from eating meat.
We are animals just like all the others on the planet... well most are
There is a food cycle and we eat meat coz we like it and it contains vitamins and minerals that are good for bodies. Get over it!
hehe now I feel like a porterhouse steak cooked medium!! YUM!!
Have you ever seen a vegan, pale and skinny :Sedit on 5-5-2012 by Havick007 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by QQXXw
Originally posted by boymonkey74
If the animals did not want to be eaten they would evolve to taste nasty and if we did stop eating meat how many cows etc would there be? not many apart from zoos
Good thread S&F.
Do you agree with eating dolphins? they sure taste good don't they, perhaps, if humans were as delicious and nutritious as dolphins, we would be eating each other and would have never evolved past primitive society
edit on 5-5-2012 by QQXXw because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by QQXXw
If a dolphin was caught in the nets and died, I think it is a waste not to use its meat for something (cat food maybe)
I knew a fishmonger in Preston who bought a Dolphin at smithfield market (it turned up with a load of tuna) and he cut it up into steaks and put its head on a spike to advertise it, within 30 mins he had 50 people doing a sit down protest in his shop...he had to shut down 2 weeks later .
Me? I would eat Dolphin if it was dead and put in front of me, Human? nah that is going to far, but don't they say that we developed our big brains due to the fact we ate eachother thus getting plenty of protein to help our growing brain.