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The LORD your GOD (YaHWeH your Elohim)

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posted on May, 5 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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reply to post by boymonkey74
 


Deception,

deception,

lies,

no truth in these words,

disregarding.




posted on May, 5 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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See what I mean.....he types the words but he doesn't understand them....Oh and auto is no fool, and stop with the threats dude....ie Iam WARNING you.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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Most of us are philosophers of the light and The Way, that which is the Intelligent Design. We have little flash lights that show people truth, so they find their way up the ladder.

For the OP theme of delivery, borken heart, and easy times of exploitations, some offer this thesis:




atheism.about.com...

Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions.
Karl Marx, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right

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In the above quotation Marx is saying that religion’s purpose is to create illusory fantasies for the poor. Economic realities prevent them from finding true happiness in this life, so religion tells them that this is OK because they will find true happiness in the next life. Although this is a criticism of religion, Marx is not without sympathy: people are in distress and religion provides solace, just as people who are physically injured receive relief from opiate-based drugs.

The quote is not, then, as negative as most portray (at least about religion). In some ways, even the slightly extended quote which people might see is a bit dishonest because saying “Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature...” deliberately leaves out the additional statement that it is also the “heart of a heartless world.”

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Even worse, this “drug” is administered by the same oppressors who are responsible for the pain and suffering in the first place. Religion is an expression of more fundamental unhappiness and symptom of more fundamental and oppressive economic realities. Hopefully, humans will create a society in which the economic conditions causing so much pain and suffering would be eradicated and, therefore, the need for soothing drugs like religion will cease. Of course, for Marx such a turn of events isn’t to be “hoped for” because human history was leading inevitably towards it.



edit on 5-5-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Religion has lots of problems---mostly being about money



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 01:00 PM
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I have preached or said NOTHING contrary to Gods Word,

You and autowrench are the ones spreading a message of deception, NOT I!

You're the ones believing lies, and casting the Truth aside as lies,

I'm just here to shine some Light on your darkness, that's all!



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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I think you are Revelationgeneration in disguise because you both have the same bio.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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That's more of an issue for the moderators to worry about than you, now isn't it?

Here, I have something for you:

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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Heck dude right back at you, Iam here to stop your rubbish and to give people a different view to yours, if you can not accept that why don't you goto a website where you can all agree with each other....like I said before this is ATS don't expect everyone to agree with you and if you can't handle it take a break, (I did and I came back refreshed rdy for round 2) lol



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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So you are revalationgeneration...thought so why hide behind a new name eh? Iam out......



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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Because that would be no fun.

This game we call life would be no fun if God did not give us places like this for people like me and you to "discuss" and use our intellects to debate with differing views.....tactfully, most of the time, lol



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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There you go again putting words I did not speak into my mouth,

The tongue really is full of venom and poison,

Jesus sure knows what He's talking about!



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 01:07 PM
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obviously alot of people believe in monsters and werewolves and flying spaghetti!?!

there is no use in trying to divide the believers amongst themselves...

the only division is between atheists and theists, though it really doesn't matter because they are in such the minority... always have been

when an atheist is present all theist unite
for some reason the atheist have the ability of making that happen... must be something in their way?


edit on 5-5-2012 by SisyphusRide because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by boymonkey74
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Man I hope you didn't squish a bee dude
bees give us fruit to eat.
that was back before Jesus showed me the way.


Oh and Iam not evil fella
I called the bee evil... he just wouldn't stop attacking those things.


it's just I have had run ins with the OP before, he really needs to study the bible more and try to understand it, he is a born again christian of 2 years and speaks like he is the mouthpiece of God while he has threatened people (with hell) and that is a pet hate of mine because I do not believe in hell it's like the bogeyman.
it's all good, live and let live... you don't believe in boogymen do ya?


He is everything I don't like about Christianity because he misses the point of it.
Iam not going to stand by and let him get away with it, you may see it as trolling but I see it as just calling him out on what he says in the hope he may realize he is in the wrong.
I only see it as you strengthening those who've found Jesus... The only hate I can direct in any religious practice is in atheism and Islam, because of their actions which need a more prudent attention.


Like someone posted before

And here's one for you OP. Proverbs 16:18
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
do you believe God and accept that Jesus was he? if not I'd be careful using any of those words to do thy bidding or out of context.


Preaching is fine as long as it carries a good message to all but his form of preaching preys on the vulnerable.
I just think he needs to grow up a little and realize that he may be wrong about things.
I like your idea that you only try to convert people to heavy metal
preaching is good... I do it all the time. I can't help it... it's almost like an addiction when something moves you inside you just gotta 'give it away' to others freely!

edit on 5-5-2012 by SisyphusRide because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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I have preached or said NOTHING contrary to Gods Word,


No, but you are taking words out of the bible and trying to pass it off as if you are the one delivering the message.

How about I do the same...and pose as a

agent, ambassador, delegate, delivery person, emissary, flag-bearer, forerunner, gofer, harbinger, herald, minister, post, precursor, preacher

Would you be ok with that?



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 01:34 PM
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I have my own God its personal to me and I do not need to preach, but I have read the bible and it sure does have some good things in and inadvertently it has molded my beliefs and maybe my morals (But so have Yoda
) so I think I can use the odd passage as others do
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And seeing that he has changed into this new username because everyone figured out (even the Christians here) he was a bit to much fire and brimstone etc, I have lost the tiny bit of respect I had for him.
So Iam out of this thread fella
hope to bump into you soon on another thread
you seem like the kind of Christian I can get along with.
peace dude and Rock on.

Not really HM but Iam sure you will like ;D




posted on May, 5 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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Glad you bought into your own false deception,

Shalom



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 02:04 PM
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Iason 321 is quoting from Isaiah 61 verse not sure if he is applying that verse to himself ? But i believe it was the same scripture Jesus used when he went to the synagogue in Nazareth as seen at Luke 4 verses 16 -18



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by Iason321
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.


If you're brokenhearted, on your way to prison (or in prison and somehow reading this), blind or deaf or poor, deliverance is only one prayer away.

Will you be delivered? Or will you wallow in your self pity, pride, arrogance and ignorance?

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Amen & Amen,

Selah!


Salame!!!!

emilyxleyva.buzznet.com...



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 04:12 PM
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Could I respectfully ask the point of this thread?
I read almost every post, and still am unclear as to the point and what is being said here?
Is this the debate Yahweh is an Elohim thread, or Jesus is the Whole shebang thread? Not sure.

Sincerely,
Curious EarthCitizen23



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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Thank you for the message.
I asked who I call Jehovah to please deliver my son and I from an abusive situation. That was about an hour ago. I just found your post so I will take that as my prayer answered!



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by Iason321
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Be warned,

Autowrench has already been established as a person who holds no belief in God and has "astral projected", has had demonic experiences, subscribes to New Age satanic beliefs, and calls the Lord of the Universe YHWH a "demon", which is blasphemy in the worst way.


You just told me how much you are caught up in duality and cannot se beyond your ego. I sometimes have a problem with that to. To think that astral projection is bad is smallminded and just fear of the unknown.

You might hate New Age and Buddist and Islam, hindus and eveybody else that do not belive as you do (the unknow). And especially the people who do not need the bible to understand god. From my point of view the true Christians are not all the followers of the Christian Religion but the ones who live the message whatever views they have of god. There is a group of humans on this planet that understand something more right now and are connecting to each other. They come from all religon and no religon and all parts of the world. They are after the truth about god and finding him for real.

I can clearly see that the view of god in the old testament and Jesus view is not exactly the same. That is why I ask god himself and he shows me thru synchronicity and logic how I should understand it. I might not always have the same views as Autowrench but in a way I get where he is comming from. Please stop playing around with duality and start seeking for real for god within.







 
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