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Even some of Barack Obama's friends are shaking their heads at the YouTube ad where Bill Clinton praises the president for going after Osama bin Laden, then a text box sneers: "Which path would Mitt Romney have chosen?" Liberal blogmaster and Obama supporter Arianna Huffington told CBS This Morning the ad was "despicable". Even worse politically, it's baffling.
It would be naive to object that Barack Obama promised to do politics differently. That's what they all say ... right before landing a typical partisan cheap shot.
It's also naive to complain that the ad politicizes national security. Politics never really did stop at the water's edge in America, except briefly in the early Cold War.
The ad is nevertheless a crass blunder for two main reasons.
First, there has always been a taboo on bringing bring foreigners into America's quarrels or voicing your disagreements before foreign audiences. Obama has already trod on dangerous ground, grovelling rhetorically before foreign Muslims, and in one infamous case literally to the Saudi King, in deliberate contrast to his swaggering Republican predecessor.
Originally posted by DaTroof
I knew this was going to take a Ron Paul turn at some point.
Here's something to digest. Obama has shown leadership when many believed he could not. What freedoms have you lost? None. What freedoms have you gained? None. That's life. You're lucky to live in this country and have the freedoms that you do.
Originally posted by DaTroof
Originally posted by auraelium
Originally posted by DaTroof
I knew this was going to take a Ron Paul turn at some point.
Here's something to digest. Obama has shown leadership when many believed he could not. What freedoms have you lost? None. What freedoms have you gained? None. That's life. You're lucky to live in this country and have the freedoms that you do.
Shown leadership how exactly? ignoring the Judicial process? by evicerating the constitution?
What freedoms have we lost? eh ... (NDAA) we can only be thrown in jail without any evidence just, accusation, for life and the key trown away,without any access to a lawyer or any way to defend ourselves? should the fuhrer insist?
All our internet activity can now be monitered legally? our Emails can be viewed by any government agency without a warrent?
Sorry to ask but what f**king planet have you been living on for the last 4 years?
I live on the planet where words like "thrown", "monitored", and "warrant" are spelled correctly. It's called well-read and mature adult life, as opposed to paranoid dropout druggie life.
Who is "we", by the way? Are you a terrorist? NDAA just affirms the AUMF power the President already has, but is geared towards provisions for combating domestic terrorism. So, are you a terrorist?edit on 5-5-2012 by DaTroof because: (no reason given)
Who is "we", by the way? Are you a terrorist? NDAA just affirms the AUMF power the President already has, but is geared towards provisions for combating domestic terrorism. So, are you a terrorist?
Originally posted by DaTroof
Originally posted by auraelium
Originally posted by DaTroof
I knew this was going to take a Ron Paul turn at some point.
Here's something to digest. Obama has shown leadership when many believed he could not. What freedoms have you lost? None. What freedoms have you gained? None. That's life. You're lucky to live in this country and have the freedoms that you do.
Shown leadership how exactly? ignoring the Judicial process? by evicerating the constitution?
What freedoms have we lost? eh ... (NDAA) we can only be thrown in jail without any evidence just, accusation, for life and the key trown away,without any access to a lawyer or any way to defend ourselves? should the fuhrer insist?
All our internet activity can now be monitered legally? our Emails can be viewed by any government agency without a warrent?
Sorry to ask but what f**king planet have you been living on for the last 4 years?
I live on the planet where words like "thrown", "monitored", and "warrant" are spelled correctly. It's called well-read and mature adult life, as opposed to paranoid dropout druggie life.
Who is "we", by the way? Are you a terrorist? NDAA just affirms the AUMF power the President already has, but is geared towards provisions for combating domestic terrorism.
Originally posted by DaTroof
I knew this was going to take a Ron Paul turn at some point.
Here's something to digest. Obama has shown leadership when many believed he could not. What freedoms have you lost? None. What freedoms have you gained? None. That's life. You're lucky to live in this country and have the freedoms that you do.
Originally posted by Ericthenewbie
reply to post by boncho
Thanks for adding that video...it's very telling of the insanity American citizens have faced since 9/11 and their potential futures if change doesn't take place.
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by auraelium
Shrub got the ball rolling on this crap by signing the Patriot Act.
Not to let Obama off of the hook but you need to remember who put this crap in motion in the first place. This will allow you to attack a candidate more effectively. Obama could have put a stop to this crap but has only allowed it to continue.