Anonymous Hackers Target CIA, UK Supreme Court Over 'Pirate Bay' Censorship, page 1

Anonymous Hackers Target CIA, UK Supreme Court Over 'Pirate Bay' Censorship

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Hacktivist members of the online collective called "Anonymous" targeted the websites of the United Kingdom Supreme Court and the CIA on Friday, responding to efforts by both governments to stifle internet freedom. Anonymous has named its new campaign to fight online censorship "Operation The Pirate Bay" (TPR) and "Operation Trial At Home."

On Friday afternoon both websites were knocked offline and inaccessible to the public, most likely with a DDoS attack. The cyber-attack comes just days after the British high court ruled that Internet service providers must block all access to The P

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An interesting unfolding of events. So, do DDOS attacks on these websites help their cause? Does it send the message they want to send, with the intended effect?

Or does it just end up justifying more 'regulation' of the internet for our own 'protection'?

Tough to say. One can certainly argue that anon are, at least at times, lead into actions by people who are setting up a trap (Re SABU).

What say you?

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reply to post by stanguilles7

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What say you?

I say its useless, ddos attacks do not accomplish anything, at all.
If what we hear is true (which it probably isnt) these hackers attack and steal credit card and social security info from financial institutions but can only DdoS government sites?
The main point of DdoS is to deny access to that site for a period of time, so the only organizations that would be adversely affected, would be a site based on commerce.

reply to post by Majic

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As long as anonymous posting is still possible on the internet, anonymous will never be dead.
Anon existed long before 4chan was even an idea, and will likely exist long after it is laid to rest.

reply to post by stanguilles7

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Strange logic: "Let's voluntarily curtail our freedoms so they aren't regulated away." ...Are you thinking this should work like corporate self-regulation? Where the big guys do what they want? And the little guys bite the bullet?

reply to post by Juggernog

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I agree that it's a pretty useless attack. A minor inconvenience at best, especially when it isnt a commercial site that might be losing business, like the CIA.

Originally posted by soficrow
reply to post by stanguilles7

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Strange logic: "Let's voluntarily curtail our freedoms so they aren't regulated away." ...Are you thinking this should work like corporate self-regulation? Where the big guys do what they want? And the little guys bite the bullet?

I'm not sure I understand your point, especially considering you put something in quotes that i didnt say.

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All of these 'incentents' remind me of a story my high school history teacher told me once. I don't remember the exact situation (I was never good at remembering trival facts) but I do recall the main points.

Basically there was a protest in the mid 1900's in the US and the local PD did not approve of the protestors nor their cause. So... one of the off duty officers dressed up as a protestor and acted in negative manner (i.e. violence or provoking negative actions, again i don't remember the specifics). He or she did this to give the protestors a bad name. It was determined that the perp was an office duty officer because of his shoes. He was wearing his government assigned shoes.

Does anyone remember this event and the details? Anyways... Ever since I heard this, Ive been skeptic to believe that a group actually commited said action if it opposes their cause. I'm not saying its true, but if I were the government and I wanted more regulations on the internet, I would create a harmless situations or situations with minimal harm to someone that validates my cause. The reason I believe it would have to be a harmless situation is because it is a lot easier to sweep that situation under the rug and still make people aware of it. If a person or business suffers drastically and it makes the front page of every newspaper, than the public will demand someone to be held accountable.

From my knowledge, anon hasn't done anything drastic enough to make me believe it is a group of vigilants. I mean seriously, what have they done? Shut down a few websites for maybe an hour? 'Stole' a few emails? If someone is able to hack into something and not get caught, I'm assuming they could do something with a little more 'impressing' than that. Idk but if I were to bet, I would say its an off duty officer. Quick question; What kind of shoes do anon wear?

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Yeah, I mentioned the name Sabu. You can look him up. He was recently exposed as turning informant after being busted by the feds. He apparently lead many people from within anonymous (he was kind of a well respected dude) on a lot of 'attacks' in the recent past, and apparently got a lot of people busted for crimes he explicitly encouraged them to engage in. Under the direction of the Feds. Now THATS entrapment.

It makes me wonder how much of what they do is a 'honeypot', like others in this thread have mentioned, to pull potential internet rebels into a trap before they end up doing something that actually might cause damage.

As far as the notion that nothing they do makes any real difference, though, I'd like to point out many Anons helped coordinate social media for many of the middlleeast uprisings form the very beginning. They bragged about shutting down and defiling government sites, helping local activists use social media to connect to others in their own country, and even helping circumvent local government internet blackouts. For better or worse, those are actions which did have consequence.

Also, I dont know about he case you mention, but three cops in Canada were caught a few years ago at some international summit trying to instigate violence, and some had big rocks. They were dressed up like 'anarchists' and were identified mainly because of their police issued boots.

Originally posted by stanguilles7


An interesting unfolding of events. So, do DDOS attacks on these websites help their cause? Does it send the message they want to send, with the intended effect?

Or does it just end up justifying more 'regulation' of the internet for our own 'protection'?

Tough to say. One can certainly argue that anon are, at least at times, lead into actions by people who are setting up a trap (Re SABU).

What say you?

www.ibtimes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Since we can't say who anonymous is, all we can do is judge their actions. I found a few of their attacks suspect, but it could well be that multiple people with different agendas are using the same alias, thus the bad guys giving the good guys a bad reputation.

Or anonymous is not as sound as we think. Perhaps they have not figured out everything yet and are making mistakes. For example why hack the government for going after illegal downloading? Freedom of speech is one thing and encouraging actual piracy is quite another.

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Agent provacateurs are not based on hollywood. Yes I have heard multiple accounts of under-cover cops putting on their hoods and following union marches just to start trouble and then the media takes over and spins it that lefty dirty hippies are causing fights/fires/bombs to explode/larceny......whatever!

Basically anything to demonise the left, as the military and police are tradionally right wing oriented. In the old days they simply shot you, kicked you in the face, bust your ribs with their heavy battons.........but now they choose the subtle approach....since winning the propaganda war is the easiest and safest way.

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