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If you are in a large city how would you survive an EMP Strike?

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posted on May, 4 2012 @ 10:57 PM
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Purchase an old military vehicle from WW2 - Vietnam. The ones without computer chips and motherboards, and drive out of the city.

If you don't have an old vehicle from the time period, than you're screwed. You can run for your life, but you won't get far


If you lived in Europe on the other hand, you can buy old tanks and # for $20,000 - $100,000.




posted on May, 6 2012 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by starwarsisreal
If you are in a large city how would you survive an EMP Strike?

I've heard alot of ways of surviving an EMP strike but that mostly on a rural environment. But what happens if you are in a large city like LA for example? I mean what do we do if we are caught in the Middle? Is there anyway to get out? What are the safest ways to get out? How we survive the intial after math of the EMP?

Remember due to their area and large population a city would be a total warzone



Get in a boat and go along the coast. Watch out for pirates. Fish for food and get things off the beach like crabs.

Its places like Arizona where it gets hot where they would be suffering when the power went out.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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plenty of wide open spaces in the USA and a bunch of fresh water all over, better try harder than an EMP to bring us down.

Gonna take a whole lot more than that for sure.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 08:58 AM
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I suggest a bicycle/tricycle and a well planned in advance 'safe' (a relative term) exit route. Have the bike ready to go with plenty of baskets and/or cargo nets, already stocked with essentials and covered from prying eyes. A small bike trailer would be nice or you could improvise with some 2 by 4's and bungee a skateboard or two to the far end. Depart IMMEDIATELY before people covet your bike and goods.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by rebellender
plenty of wide open spaces in the USA and a bunch of fresh water all over, better try harder than an EMP to bring us down.

Gonna take a whole lot more than that for sure.


It will reduce the population by about 90% within a yr - then you will have Mexicans coming in to colonise the US in huge waves, killing every white or black they come across - a few hillbillies hiding out in the mountains ain't going to stop them.


After a yr no-one is going to be manning the Subs or nukes - and if the NWO hasn't #ed over the Chinese in the meantime - they will be coming over in cruise ships to shoo the Beaners away and claim some blond trophy wives - the rest of you they will just shoot on sight as you won't make very good slaves.


As for the immediate aftermath of an EMP - get out of any large city as soon as possible - use bicycles.

When you get to rural areas there will be some empty homes holiday lodges etc where the owners ain't never coming back, med term you need to be well hidden and very remote - or part of a community that can field several hundred armed fighters to defend it.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:26 AM
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I understand from an EMP strike that it only takes out electronics, not human life.

If you make yourself less dependant on every day electronics, you will likely survive.

This would included purchasing gold in small (1 g) denominations that can be easily traded, and getting off that cell phone while you drive.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by daaskapital
Purchase an old military vehicle from WW2 - Vietnam. The ones without computer chips and motherboards, and drive out of the city.

If you don't have an old vehicle from the time period, than you're screwed. You can run for your life, but you won't get far


If you lived in Europe on the other hand, you can buy old tanks and # for $20,000 - $100,000.


They still had electric starters.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by JohhnyBGood

Originally posted by rebellender
plenty of wide open spaces in the USA and a bunch of fresh water all over, better try harder than an EMP to bring us down.

Gonna take a whole lot more than that for sure.


It will reduce the population by about 90% within a yr - then you will have Mexicans coming in to colonise the US in huge waves, killing every white or black they come across - a few hillbillies hiding out in the mountains ain't going to stop them.


After a yr no-one is going to be manning the Subs or nukes - and if the NWO hasn't #ed over the Chinese in the meantime - they will be coming over in cruise ships to shoo the Beaners away and claim some blond trophy wives - the rest of you they will just shoot on sight as you won't make very good slaves.


As for the immediate aftermath of an EMP - get out of any large city as soon as possible - use bicycles.

When you get to rural areas there will be some empty homes holiday lodges etc where the owners ain't never coming back, med term you need to be well hidden and very remote - or part of a community that can field several hundred armed fighters to defend it.


you're watching too many B rated movies
seriously man, life goes on
the will to live is very strong, way more that is the temptation to believe some guy telling stories around a campfire about "How its really gonna get bad 'IF' ...."
I can prove you 90% model wrong!!!



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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Forstchen's book "One Second After" was a novel intended to generate books sales, not to help you imagine the probable results of an EMP.

The fact is, government tests and even "Mythbusters" have shown that many modern vechicles (around 65%) will still function after an EMP where the pulse is below 50 kV/m.

Traffic will be lighter than expected, but it won't be the magical rapture of survivalists that so many dream of.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by tovenar
Forstchen's book "One Second After" was a novel intended to generate books sales, not to help you imagine the probable results of an EMP.

The fact is, government tests and even "Mythbusters" have shown that many modern vechicles (around 65%) will still function after an EMP where the pulse is below 50 kV/m.

Traffic will be lighter than expected, but it won't be the magical rapture of survivalists that so many dream of.



Stop saying that. It will so be the magical rapture of the survivalists thats why we spent so much money on bug out bags that are so heavy we need bike carts to haul them.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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Most people dont like to hear it, but in a "must get out of the city" situation, the sewers are your friend. Dont forget that.

Crap, probably shouldnt have said that,now there will be a "sewer jam" when its time to bail....



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 07:12 PM
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This movie will give you some idea of what it looks like when millions of people try to flee into the countryside all at once.

This is just the trailer but the movie is out there if you look.

In this movie nukes are dropped in LA and a family tries to escape into the hills. They were half way there already at the time on a mini-trip with the camper. And so they were way ahead of the mobs. Which soon caught up however. Traffic on the highway bumper to bumper so you can't cross it. etc.




posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by Rocketman7

Originally posted by tovenar
Forstchen's book "One Second After" was a novel intended to generate books sales, not to help you imagine the probable results of an EMP.

The fact is, government tests and even "Mythbusters" have shown that many modern vechicles (around 65%) will still function after an EMP where the pulse is below 50 kV/m.

Traffic will be lighter than expected, but it won't be the magical rapture of survivalists that so many dream of.



Stop saying that. It will so be the magical rapture of the survivalists thats why we spent so much money on bug out bags that are so heavy we need bike carts to haul them.


It is nice to see a good dose of reality on here once and a while. An EMP blast would be pretty bad, but not as awful as the fear porn would lead you to believe.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:54 PM
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it would only be like that if people were without basic needs for a week or more then people would start to get angry or panic, so plenty of time to get out if you were really worried, the first 5-8 hours would be people just thinking it was a power cut, people would come out onto the street and chat to pass the time, or go on holiday or to stay with friends in another city if they realise it is for days or a week or two, and i would assume basic needs would be brought into the effected area to prevent panic and rioting due to lack of basic needs.

the only danger i see is people with MMO withdrawal or soap rage because they never did find out who shot j.r. almost all other people can get by without electric for a while even though they would miss some comforts, it would be like going camping.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by lifeform11

it would only be like that if people were without basic needs for a week or more then people would start to get angry or panic, so plenty of time to get out if you were really worried, the first 5-8 hours would be people just thinking it was a power cut.....

...almost all other people can get by without electric for a while even though they would miss some comforts, it would be like going camping.


I've spent some time playing with numbers on the issue of when the public starts to "lose it."

If you think about an EMP scenario. The situation will be life or death immediately for a very small number of people: folks on dialysis machines, patients in the midst of surgery, etc. But moving forward, the number of people in a panic state for themselves or a family/friend will begin to escalate. After 2 days without a fridge, all the insulin in the city will have gone over. Brittle diabetics will begin to die. Their caregivers will do anything to keep their loved ones alive.

And the situation the the jails will become a living hell. Practically every jail in the nation has electric doors on its pods. While there are always two backup generators, there is no fail-safe on some doors in every jail. No manual override. My research suggests many backup generators that will have been off during the EMP will function successfully; but only for a weekend, or until the pressure in gas mains falls below a few pounds per foot. At that point, tens of thousands of prisoners will be effectively entombed within their units. And the food in the freezers in the cafeterias and commissaries will have gone bad. Some of those jailers will have "solved" the problem in a positively medieval manner. Relatives of prisoners will have realized this, and will probably stage break-ins to save their loved ones / family / gang members.

And while ~60% of cars will run, they will also run low on gas. And without electricity, the pumps at "the pumps" won't work. Someone will shove a garden hose down a vent, and start siphoning their own gas, despite the protests of the manager. At that point, someone pulls a gun when another person cuts in line because "his kid is sick," and it's game on.

Likewise at the pharmacy; when some vietnam vet is told he cannot have his heart medication until the pharmacy tech gets an email prescription from the VA doctor--but the email is down because the power is out. At that point, the veteran goes out to his van and picks up his colt python, and we're at the tipping point. Now the thing is, it isn't just this lone vet's crisis. The people watching that veteran will remember, when it's their turn at the little window when they get to talk to the pharmacy. And if guns will solve my problem, hey, I'm getting mine out, too. Then next step is when one customer sticks up another for the last bottle of painkillers.

It's like the zombie simulator. You reach the "hockey stick moment," when the graph of people who are going ape-pooh begins to go up at an exponentially increasing rate. At that point, you waited too long to get TFOOD.



posted on May, 22 2012 @ 07:44 PM
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I'm from the uk and hope you don't mind my adding a post.in the event of an emp I would get out of the city I live in as soon as possible I have decided on 3 escape routes with the aid of maps and a decent compass more than likely on foot with my 22 year old son we have bug out bag and rucksacks enough food till I can catch game and forage for food and grow. What people forget or don't know that transformers take almost a year to build so electricity would be off for more than a while as crucial services ie hospitals would be first on the list not the average joe. Water would be contaminated people will die as chaos will descend. If it takes years then you are better off in groups with people who will watch your backs.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 08:02 AM
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Have you thought much about snares? Keeping some wire formed into a lasso won't take up much room in your bags, and will be a quiet way to get some meat in a crisis.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 12:31 PM
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I already have it hun my father was a gamekeeper so I know how to fish shoot and snare game also I can use a slingshot which in this age of uncertainty is a plus



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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Chances are for the first couple days a majority of the people wont have any idea whats going and in nyc 95% of the people are brain dead phone zombies so it shouldnt be too dangerous.im just going to ride down to the loca marina and steal me a nice sail boat, point it south and hope i dont run into a hurricane. all those navigation my grand father gave me will finally be put to use. Maybe if i find a big enough boat and a few other survivors we'll head over to Amsterdam and do a bunch of drugs as the end times roll in. or i could just get a bunch of supplies loaded up and head for the middle of the country. who would wanna waste a nuke there anyways?
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by MastaShake
Chances are for the first couple days a majority of the people wont have any idea whats going on



Ah yes, the "I'll have a head start" assumption.

The funny thing is, everyone thinks that they are smarter or more perceptive than everyone else. That's what keeps the securities trade and wall street in business.

Even if you really are smarter than all the rest, you may be in hospital or jail when the collapse hits. Or it may be a week of CMEs, or it might be a solar flare in your sleep.

Assumption that let you off the hook now mean that your plans will have little relevance later.



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