Is the NFL fake?

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posted on May, 4 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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I'm interesting more in football since that's my favorite sport to watch. If theres no football I'll watch basketball.
What I mean is, do they tell the players who's going to win the upcoming game beforehand or that at a certain point you have to have an interception or dont run at your usual speed so the wide receiver will be able score a touchdown and stuff like that?

I think I'll still watch it even if it's fake, but I want to know for sure if the NBA, but most importanly if the NFL, is fake.




posted on May, 4 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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I wouldn't say fake, but there have been reports of coaches throwing games and paying bonuses to players who "take out" certain other players.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 03:42 PM
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If you're taking fake as in professional wrestling, then no I don't think it's fake.

As mentioned by AnonCitizen above, the NFL is a business and there are individuals that would do underhanded things to make a buck. I wouldn't call the NFL fake for this reason though.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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lol put it this way

there are about 2700 players who will attend training camp this summer, and only about 1700 will make team rosters. that leaves 1000 players who will have no job, and not get paid. So if the NFL was scripted, do you not think somebody would have come forward with compelling evidence of that by now?

College players are way more likely to be bribed to throw a game, since they do not get paid. Further, there are 22 players on the field at any given time, which greatly reduces the impact one player or coach could have on the game. A quarterback would be the most likely player to "throw" a game, and that's unlikely IMO because a starting NFL QB's average salary is over $6M per year.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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Great point! I almost wish it was fake then maybe they'd give my Eagles a Superowl. haha



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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I often wonder if it is fake. I don't think the players are in on it otherwise I am positive it would of come out by now. My curiosity has more to do with the refs and the NFL head office.

I would imagine most games are real but I have often wondered about playoff games and regular season games that determine the playoff teams.

I wonder if the NFL gives orders to the refs to judge the game in the favor of teams with larger markets or more popular players. It would make sense as it would make the NFL more money.
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posted on May, 4 2012 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by scoodoo20
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Great point! I almost wish it was fake then maybe they'd give my Eagles a Superowl. haha



I would argue that the only reason the Eagles haven't won a SuperBowl is because it must be fake, lol.

No other possible excuse I can think of except that the NFL head office is in a conspiracy to deny Philadelphia a Lombardi trophy.
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posted on May, 4 2012 @ 04:40 PM
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It's every Pro Sport, with how the referees handle situations or how the big leading Organisations refuse to input advanced cameras (like Goal Cameras for soccer games, FIFA refuses ist) i ofen wonder, if it's just scripted.Sometimes it's as absurd as your regular WWE event. I can only give the example of the NHL as i don't watch Pussyball (Basketball is lame) and only occasional follow the NFL.
As a Red Wings fan, i saw some weird things. Like in 2009, when Evgeni Malkin had an Instigator, 10 Minute Misconduct and Game Misconduct for his behaviour. The NHL rule book says that this leads to an automatic 1 game suspension - yet Malkin was never suspended. Same this season with Weber slamming Zetterbergs head against the glass, even his helmet fractured - yet there was only a 2,500$ fine (which a guy who gets 7,5 million dollars in this season alone just laughs about), same goes on with a lot of other teams. Very weird as if the NHL tries to control the outcome of the playoffs (and look at this season, most favourites are gone, what's left are mostly expansion teams and of course the Coyotes who are actually owned by the NHL)

There are a lot of scandals on in Sports. Here in Europe Football (Soccer) is big, in the past few years we had several scandals in Germany with bribed referees and players. In Italy the same happened in a even bigger way (Juventus lost 2 of its Championships and was demoted to the Serie B)
You just have to wonder, how many bribbing acts got through, how many referees were paid to help one team or how many players were paid to lose against another team (Here in Germany we had that one big scandal in 1970 were several players of different teams were paid so they played 'bad'against other teams as a measurement of what team gets demoted to the second division)

And of course don't forget the most fake pro sport there is: Boxing. So many scandals in the past 25 years, it's laughable.

There's certainly a lot of foul play going on in "pro sports", it's a big business with millions of dollars after all.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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I don't think it so much fake as it is ref controlled... After all it is about the all mighty dollar and once that formula dictates that rigging games makes more money... You know the answer

As for the NBA... Bought and sold when the Bad Boy Pistons won their titles... I mean, and this is me thinking out loud...they dabbled in it before that (Ewing to Knicks; David Robinson to Spurs, saving that franchise from moving), And by dabble I mean, rigged drafts, steered free agents, rigged games via refs but they went all in around 1990 I'm guessing. Once the Pistons won their titles, it brought in an ugly, star-less brand of basketball. It went against the marketing campaign around athleticism (Jordan, Dominique, Magic)

I hope the NFL does not go the way of the NBA but I fear it will...

But hey its 2012... So ya never know...
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posted on May, 4 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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There have been a few coincidences that made me wonder about the NFL. Like how the Saints won the Superbowl after Katrina. There have been a few others. I understand parity and all that, but it does seem like the wealth gets spread around in the NFL a bit more often than what would be a statistical norm. I remember when certain teams would dominate their divisions for years, and playing against some teams was almost a sure win. Now, it seems that teams to do well when their city needs an economic boost.

Or maybe I just see conspiracies everywhere.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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Hahaha One day, my friend, one day....



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by 0thetrooth0
I'm interesting more in football since that's my favorite sport to watch. If theres no football I'll watch basketball.
What I mean is, do they tell the players who's going to win the upcoming game beforehand or that at a certain point you have to have an interception or dont run at your usual speed so the wide receiver will be able score a touchdown and stuff like that?

I think I'll still watch it even if it's fake, but I want to know for sure if the NBA, but most importanly if the NFL, is fake.


The New England Patriots are not owned by New England; they are privately owned. The players are not from New England, they are from different states, so there is no connection to New England whatsoever. The game is about moving an object over a line; an object that has no relevance to real life whatosever. And when a team wins, it doesn't profit the viewers in any way, shape, or form.

And you want to know if it's fake?



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 07:39 PM
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in the past refs were the best way and coaches.
Now they have guns that target elctromagnetic interference to the brains.of key players at key times.
Alot like the yips in golf.
Not really that hard.
Too much has happened in the last few years in playoffs and superbowls.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 07:53 PM
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The Pats after 9.11.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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posted on May, 5 2012 @ 04:26 AM
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The NFL seems very controlled. Like it's almost scripted.

Now no-one can make a player catch a pass, or throw a ball, but I feel the tempo and pace is dictated by a higher authority.

The refs have a tremendous influence on the outcome of any game. It seems that all momentum can be curbed with a simple flag.

Every holding call I see, looks just like any other play.

Yet a holding call is 10 yards..

I believe the NFL had it in for Al Davis.

There's no way a team can consistently lead the league in penalties EVERY year for 30 years.

Not after player changes, coaching changes, etc, etc.

That just smells fishy. I'm no Raiders fan but I think it warrants it's own thread.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 06:16 AM
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way way way too much money involved to risk it. Dallas Cowboys are a billion dollar franchise. You would have to pay a team a lot of frigging money to throw the game.

Now,, the mob used to try to throw games, getting players prostitutes and parties and keep them up all night to throw games.Or getting them into drugs.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 07:31 AM
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The game is much more then this. The game is about friends coming together to get away from the real world bs, the game is about a father bringing his children to enjoy a tradition that his father before him did...ect. Sports arent always about overpaid, overpriced football teams to me and the people I know its about friendship, memories, and traditions.






posted on May, 5 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by scoodoo20
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The game is much more then this. The game is about friends coming together to get away from the real world bs, the game is about a father bringing his children to enjoy a tradition that his father before him did...ect. Sports arent always about overpaid, overpriced football teams to me and the people I know its about friendship, memories, and traditions.


lol No it isn't. You could get the same results and tradition by going on picnics or watching movies.

The way the game is set up, with all the players coming from different states, is like having other countries represent us in the olympics.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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That is just a stupid point, lol.

People are paid to play for a team, not a location. the location develops a team. Research laboratories don't go only hiring local talent, they search all over for the best.

when somone is paying your 2 million dollar a year salary, you are VERY devoted to that team.

A team doesn't stay in one spot either.
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