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FBI: We need wiretap-ready Web sites -- now

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posted on May, 4 2012 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by Starchild23
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You know, if they feel the need to be this worried about what American citizens are discussing on the privacy of their own computers, maybe they should look at the WHY of the issue.

Why would there be so much dissension? They should solve the problem instead of attempting to blanket the reaction we have to it. The fact that they spend more time and resources trying to keep us from complaining, than they do actually solving the issues this country faces, should tell us everything.

The day the government becomes more paranoid than its citizens, to the point that everyone's rights are rewritten and violated, is the day the government needs a serious overhaul. It looks like that day is coming much sooner than we feared...

And the truly sickening part is, America is a superpower. When we're in trouble, who's going to save us?
edit on CFridaypm303046f46America/Chicago04 by Starchild23 because: (no reason given)


Just to highlight the obvious point that should have the spotlight. Why are you so paranoid goverment ?




posted on May, 4 2012 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by NeverSleepingEyes
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nope
it's a story that has been created to justify
and
yep
old practices found new ways for distribution

to give a negative example: child pornography used to be exchanged in brown enveliopes, now they are in the darkness of usenet.


I'm not saying that the internet isn't used for nefarious purposes. I'm questioning their motives.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 09:40 PM
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Am I mistaken or did I read practically nothing about people's privacy in that article? In the article, the discussion already begins past the idea of whether wiretapping should exist online to how fast and how far-reaching can we apply these backdoors. One could possibly assume that since it is a government entity that the backdoors would be standardized and easy pickens for a hacker. The bounding of the discussion leaves no room for constitutional infringements or civil rights violations. It's a-ok for our overlords to listen to our conversations over voip or read our emails, but when I do that to the girl in gym class it's all, "You're a stalker," and "You're a creepo, leave me alone freak." lol I think that gets my point across.

Can we just have one single absolutely free anarchic community where total human freedom allows amazing ideas and creations to flourish without some smelly, fat, and poor (Needs to steal our money) bully decides he doesn't like something and creates rules for everyone to follow except for him? Anonymous, you know your next targets. You know if hackers start finding these gov't backdoors that Anonymous will start looking to the companies doing this. That Subsentio must make a lot of money allowing the government to spy on fellow Americans. How patriotic! I guess money really can justify absolutely anything. No sense wondering when Big Brother finally rears it's big fat head because it is already here and it's been here for quite some time.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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I worked for a major telecom data center and switch site, and its disgusting the access the feds are given. When i questioned it, my managers simply said 'there the FBI! Dont mess with them!'

Its because most people are pu@&!es, and are the same ones that would willingly walk into a detention camp because the gov says so. They are afraid to question authority.

And another thing, this has been going on for a long long time.

The feds have full access to every major telephone company central office, which is essentially the backbone of the internet.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 10:36 PM
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Here is something no one has said yet. If they put the back doors in the hacker will find them and then no ones data will ever be safe again. ID theft will go up 10,000%..They are going to keep up until computers and the Internet is next to useless and worthless in the US. People are just going to stop using it. The ISPs will lose so much money it is not even funny. They will then raise the rates and even more people will quit.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by Juggernog
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Why in the hell are they so insistent on knowing everyone's GD business? Makes me want to toss my cell phone and unplug from the internet completely.



Fact of the matter... ,
is the 'people' the G-Men want to chase, DON'T USE cell phones or the Internet!



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 11:16 PM
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Yes coming soon the fbi will read everything personal and private online about us (never put personal stuff online) But the antics of the FBI on the internet great...

Don't be surprised if we see threads at some point for people who are real "angry" at the gov with overly helpful OPs who strangely know how to get you loads of interesting... items...



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 02:32 AM
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This whole idea is more dangerous than the idea of censorship. They wave censorship in one hand, while hiding surveillance up their sleeve. S&F OP



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 04:28 AM
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Right, if they got little convenient backdoors into everything, of course they would only use it when absolutely necessary.


What a joke this world is...... Makes me sick. Privacy is a thing of the past, might as well put cameras all over all of our houses, we have nothing to hide right?

edit on Sat, 05 May 2012 04:28:22 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 06:01 AM
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This happened decades ago with echelon. Improved with naurus fibre sniffing devices in your main exchanges, we got 'em here in New Zealand too.

Greetings you corporate secret stealing, three lettered vultures reading this, yes I'm mostly looking at you, NSA!

If you don't want someone ripping you off, don't say it on the internet. Don't trust encryption. If you are a terrorist, don't worry. This is all nothing to do with you.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 07:15 AM
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Excuse me? This is absolute bloody rot! If a newspaper empire can have staff who regularly hack emails and mobile phone messeges, then the FBI should need no help whatsoever in getting the data they would need to seek an arrest warrant. This is total and utter crap. The FBI and thier fellow alphabet agency pals are already capable of assimilating the entire web presence of anyone they damned well please, and the only thing that the suggestion that they need more access does, is to take everyones attention away from that fact.

What a bloody callous smokescreen.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 08:22 AM
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This is a funny article, but i would like to know why on earth would i need a wire tap ready site when i can directly tap into 80% of cell phones without the persons knowing of the intrusion and this expands to the actual cell phone providers.

I think i need to find a new home, perhaps one with a bigger black budget than the one i am currently @



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 08:33 AM
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The logic is indisputable: You can't have absolute control without absolute surveillance.




posted on May, 5 2012 @ 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by Nyiah

FBI: We need wiretap-ready Web sites -- now


news.cnet.com

The FBI is asking Internet companies not to oppose a controversial proposal that would require the firms, including Microsoft, Facebook, Yahoo, and Google, to build in backdoors for government surveillance.

In meetings with industry representatives, the White House, and U.S. senators, senior FBI officials argue the dramatic shift in communication from the telephone system to the Internet has made it far more difficult for agents to wiretap Americans suspected of illegal activities, CNET has learned.
(visit the link for the full news article)



Honestly, I thought they had been doing this since before the towers fell. The government built the internet, they used it long before civilians had access. Why would they limit their access to observe something they built the infrastructure to? Just doesn't sound like my Big Brother.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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The government already has backdoors. Whether its lawful for them to use them is another story. I can only imagine that these new requests will give them unlimited and unquestioned ability to spy on people, which should obviously be denied.



posted on May, 5 2012 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by satron

Originally posted by NeverSleepingEyes
reply to post by satron
 


nope
it's a story that has been created to justify
and
yep
old practices found new ways for distribution

to give a negative example: child pornography used to be exchanged in brown enveliopes, now they are in the darkness of usenet.


I'm not saying that the internet isn't used for nefarious purposes. I'm questioning their motives.


that's how I read it. And that's a very sensible thing to do, to question the motives.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 05:37 AM
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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 05:40 AM
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Originally posted by Manhater
Yuh, at this rate they might as well throw everyone in jail. Looks like the jail system is going to run out of room. Yuh, and what about the people overseas?


day to day life is the jail system

when you refuse to partake you're thrown into a reality cell.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by satron
I'm not saying that the internet isn't used for nefarious purposes. I'm questioning their motives.

Our government will answer to us only as long as we question it, and not a moment longer.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 08:02 AM
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I was doing some audio work on my new laptop a few days ago and suddenly at the end of the recording from a .WAV file i was editing i could hear myself speaking in Audacity, some program name like that.

Now I was use to having to plug an external mic in when ever i wanted to record external audio but my new laptop has a built in mic and thats what captured my voice.

Click Windows, Control Panel, Sound and then the recording tab and disable internal mic to stop Flash switching on the recording device or better still remove the driver.

Don't have a clue how to turn off the mic on my I-Pad but I do know windows has backdoors all over the place and recording people as they talk presents a bigger danger than key loggers or reading normal files.




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