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"We are Preparing for Massive Civil War," Says DHS Informant

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posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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civil up rising every one is worried about DHS I'm more worried about the illegal immigrants were I live.Small town of about 1900 more than half do not speak English .If Mexico wanted to take over they are the ones in the position to do so.And this is mid north Indiana




posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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Divide and Conquer, that is there Game. Just look at this thread....half of those arguing basically argue about the same thing and they actually agree in Principal but dont agree on the Action that should be taken or when the action is actually going to take place.

I would look more towards a False Flag event than Civil War at this point. Now, if that doesn't work and the Economy continues on the route it is, than either there will be a mass Immigration the other way and people start high tailing it out of the US (doubt it) or you will have a few who decide to take matters in there own hands.

But, your talking so many different factions of resistant groups and they all wont get a long for the same goal. Now, if all of those put there differences aside and actually joined forces than this might be possible.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:04 PM
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From the link
"...private investigator Doug Hagmann said high-level, reliable sources told him..."

Are you personally acquainted with Mr. Hagmann? Do you believe/trust him? Does he have an agenda? A diehard birther? What year did his sources tell him?

Did you google his name? Maybe you should!



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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As people have said, this has been talked about since at least 2008 and it hasn't happened yet. Now, I'm not saying there is no way with would not occur but what I think we are missing is the fact that as long as "anonymous" sources and secret intelligence give way to theories like these, it just serves to keep people scared, afraid, fearful and most importantly stuck.

So what do people do? They sit around and wait for what they think is the inevitable. This makes people easier to control.

This is part of their game as well. Remember that....



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by Leftist
 


Articles that specifically target hot points, specifically place inflamatory information into the article designed to specifically piss people off, and to name drop the government, specifically agencies that are not high on the peoples list, it comes across as intentionally trying to incite the people into action.

An action the government could use to justify taking action as a response to, instead of going first.

Common sense... relax..... do research.... be involved.




Which could be exactly what is happening.
Our leaders could be forcing the uprising for their own advantage. Actually I have felt for over a year now that our leaders want us to rebel.

It wouldn't be the first time the leaders of this country acted on the offensive.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:20 PM
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Well, if CV really breaks out then I'm running because it's not because I want to fight the war, it's because I'm concerned about my family's safety. But if it comes to that then I will fight with the weapons I have made, some of them too advance to be on the market.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:22 PM
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Is inevitable a noun? A place in time? Why is it necessary to establish boundaries for the distribution of resources? Our current technology is able to provide a life for each person. Outside of a life of safety of habitat, food, and water resource, what is the big deal? Most humans do not fear the acts of wild animals. Most humans fear the acts of the civilized. The only global civilized species of animal on this planet is human! We fear humans? Should we fear our neighbor? Should we fear our leaders? We all have the want to provide a good outcome for ourselves. For our families, and for our friends and neighbors. This should not be difficult in the current time.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by CaptainLJB

Originally posted by TrueBrit
reply to post by jlm912
 


There are two key differences between Bush and Obama in terms of the subject matter at hand. Bush was just outright corrupt, and thick with it. Obama is subtlely sick, and a slick operator. He is probably more dangerous, although less outwardly disgusting.


Well, I grew up hating Republicans for everything they stand for. Basically all the evils of Capitalism's excessively over-rich and power-hungry rulers. Their batting average in office (from Nixon - Reagan - Bush) for inflected damage exceeds the Democrats by a wide margin.

But of course you guys from the Icke group will say that both parties are one and the same, blah blah blah.


Yeah? Well I am sure some here will find it equally entertaining that you assume that anyone who recognizes the fact that both parties are controlled by The Banksters are as well followers of David Icke. LMAO! I needed a good laugh this afternoon.~$heopleNation
edit on 4-5-2012 by SheopleNation because: TypO



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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I think you need to realize that national sovereignty in the West is nothing but a myth. Your government can't even get it's policies in order, and you think they're designing the catalysts for civil war? This goes beyond your government, my friend. Think about it. Let's just say that Obama gets $800 000/year from the tax payer, and xmillions of dollars from "private investors." Who's interests do you think he would look out for? Now, with that out there, take into consideration the Rothschilds, who basically loan money out to your government at interest. First of all, these unimagineably huge loans can never be repayed. Debt = control, and that is what the banking cartel has over your governmental process. This has nothing to do with your leaders trying to screw you, the States, and it's experiment in democracy and financial freedom has been a thorn in the side of the Rothschilds since it's inception, and with the start of the civil war, the clock has been ticking ever since. Are you not aware that the USA has not even really existed as a democracy since 1933, when the banksters had the Emergency Banking Act signed into law, meaning that control of your government was seceded to the banksters even before WWII. Ever notice how WWII happened less than 7 years after the signing of the EBA and since WWII, America has been a veritable propaganda factory, traipsing from one conflict to another with almost reckless abandon. Your military also hasn't won a war in almost 60 years, and there's a reason for that. See, the banksters cleverly figured out that if they could use the American citezenry to do the dirty work for them in the overthrowing of the government, simply by turning them against eachother using petty ideologues and false doctrine. The rest will follow suit. Think about it. Even the social outcasts and "conspiracy nuts" are part of their own little group, which consequently views the "sheeple" as ignorant fools, and yet they don't realize that they're being played just as much, if not more than the so-called "herd." I don't consider myself a conspiracy nut. I have just had my eyes opened to the one true conspiracy that all others stem from. I am not referring to the ET disclosure crapola, either. That's just another way to keep them looking up at the sky, so they can't see what's happening right in bloody front of them. Your government is not out to get you, the banksters that fund them are.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:29 PM
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Rhonda Byrne?

Hahahaha!

Yeah, she took LOTS of people in for suckers.

Kinda makes David Icke look good.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by NightGypsy
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As a member of Law Enforcement, as well as having family members in law enforcement, we have seen absolutely nothing directed towards law enforcement int terms of being prepared for a civil war.


Be careful out there, X.....there is an obvious attempt being made through the media to create animosity toward police , and I'm sorry to say it seems to be working. I hope people can see through this.



I was thinking the exact same thing earlier today (& not for the first time). As I was watching a video of the protestors in Oakland,Ca. I was saying/thinking, wow people.. you have the wrong enemy in your sights. It's as though while trying to protest they are easily and immediately sidetracked by the police who are there to keep control over those who might get out of hand. Instead of focusing on their agenda, they make the police a target and in return the police act out of mob mentality as well. The protestors should talk to the police, not get radical before them. Come together-Focus on the issue/s.




posted on May, 4 2012 @ 06:47 PM
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the only thing they are taking over is the cities.. you send a 16 man patrol out into the country your libel not to get it back.. one thing the world hasn't faced but once.. and that's an American terrorist.. last time we won a country.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by hawkiye
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What a disgrace to lose your life fighting socialism/communism only to later find out you were fighting against your own best self-interest.


You were doing fine till you made this statement ^^^... You fell for the bait and switch what we have causing all the problems IS socialism/communism/corporatism just like all the other communist models in history where a few politically favored at the top get the spoils while everyone else fights for the left over crumbs. But they have now labeled it capitalism and you and many others have fallen for it.


I wouldn't even put socialism/communism in the same room with corporatism...



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by bg_socalif
I've been hearing this stuff since i first registered on this site in 2005.

Martial law was "just around the corner" when the 2008 elections were coming. Bush was going to declare martial law, cancel elections and stay in power.

Now it's 2012, just change "Bush" to read "Obama" and repeat as necessary.

Just keep saying it repeatedly and eventually something will happen at sometime somewhere in the future.


hahahaha good post! along with EVERYTHING ELSE doomsdayish/new world

gahhhhhh!!!!!!



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 07:07 PM
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Globalization = corporatism. Am I wrong?



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 07:20 PM
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Some of you worry me. No Government that denied the will of the people has stood the test of time. No military ever fielded has held. In the end every cop, every Military man in uniform stands for the people. Not to say the cost is not high but in the end tyrants fail. Freedom is human nature.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 07:24 PM
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Interesting read about Doug Hagmann from the article.

BUSTED: Douglas J. Hagmann



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 07:31 PM
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Better to die on ones feet as a free person then live on your knees with shackles.
We all die.. death is not the end.. its the continuation of our cycle as we live..

Sorry, I misunderstood? This does imply kill or be killed? If not, my apologies. There is a time to defend ones life from others. Others think that way, anyway. Lately, I am on a fence about it. I am an American and ashamed at what my country has done and is doing around the world.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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Once again, this will come to pass without anything happening...much like everything else mentioned here



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 07:38 PM
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Why be shamed by current events? We are the children of people who observed carefull obedience to the rule of law. In fact, our parents and grandparents took their lives and placed them in the hands of the powers that be. My grandfather lived in the depression, my mother lived with my father in vietnam. I tried to be a soldier for our country. They people of our country are patriotic. Patriotism is not corporatism. Corporatism is the impetus for political progression. Nationalism is held as a throw-back idea. Corporatism is the gleeful king, grasping oily hands in preparation for the feast.




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