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Originally posted by bl4ke360
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Skewed
Considering the fact that he delivered babies as his job, I can completely understand his opinion being pro-life. I think you are trying to connect dots where there are no dots to connect. While he maintains his opinion, he is stepping outside his opinion and respecting others, and more so by leaving it to the individual states instead of the federal government to decide what is best for them.
I have to disagree with you. Ron has stated numerous times he is pro-life, but he also states that it is the peoples choice what they do.
He has every right to be pro-life. He doesnt have a right to force that upon me.
Yes he does because it doesn't only affect women, it affects babies as well, which he sees as human beings. From his perspective it would be murder, are you trying to say somebody against murder doesn't have the right to force his beliefs on you? We should all just make our own decisions with no penalties?
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by Destinyone
Ive seen, and been in the those threads, and not one of them makes the point that is being made here.
But please, keep deflecting from the fact that you cannot dispute my claim.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by bl4ke360
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Skewed
Considering the fact that he delivered babies as his job, I can completely understand his opinion being pro-life. I think you are trying to connect dots where there are no dots to connect. While he maintains his opinion, he is stepping outside his opinion and respecting others, and more so by leaving it to the individual states instead of the federal government to decide what is best for them.
I have to disagree with you. Ron has stated numerous times he is pro-life, but he also states that it is the peoples choice what they do.
He has every right to be pro-life. He doesnt have a right to force that upon me.
Yes he does because it doesn't only affect women, it affects babies as well, which he sees as human beings. From his perspective it would be murder, are you trying to say somebody against murder doesn't have the right to force his beliefs on you? We should all just make our own decisions with no penalties?
Not the point of the thread. The point of the thread, which you seem to be backing up, is that he will outlaw abortion, even though he claims he wont. He has every right to his views. They are no more "right" than mine. But if he is elected, he will have the power to FORCE his upon the people,
Originally posted by FreedomXisntXFree
What OP is saying that the abortion law would be similar to the marijuana laws in some states. Its legal in those states but illegal at the federal level. The Fed would be able to override state law.
I think that is what the OP means.
protects the rights of human persons between conception and birth;
Originally posted by bl4ke360
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by bl4ke360
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Skewed
Considering the fact that he delivered babies as his job, I can completely understand his opinion being pro-life. I think you are trying to connect dots where there are no dots to connect. While he maintains his opinion, he is stepping outside his opinion and respecting others, and more so by leaving it to the individual states instead of the federal government to decide what is best for them.
I have to disagree with you. Ron has stated numerous times he is pro-life, but he also states that it is the peoples choice what they do.
He has every right to be pro-life. He doesnt have a right to force that upon me.
Yes he does because it doesn't only affect women, it affects babies as well, which he sees as human beings. From his perspective it would be murder, are you trying to say somebody against murder doesn't have the right to force his beliefs on you? We should all just make our own decisions with no penalties?
Not the point of the thread. The point of the thread, which you seem to be backing up, is that he will outlaw abortion, even though he claims he wont. He has every right to his views. They are no more "right" than mine. But if he is elected, he will have the power to FORCE his upon the people,
How is this any different than forcing the death penalty on people or forcing punishment for murder? That's also a view and some people don't think murder is wrong, does that mean they shouldn't have to face the punishment for it?
Originally posted by grey580
protects the rights of human persons between conception and birth;
This is just silly.
Even the site you linked says this bill has a 1% chance of being passed.
This bill if it even get passed will be at the steps of the supreme court in a heartbeat.
Don't they from upon limitation of judicial power?
Originally posted by Destinyone
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by Destinyone
Ive seen, and been in the those threads, and not one of them makes the point that is being made here.
But please, keep deflecting from the fact that you cannot dispute my claim.
You have no valid, nor unique claim to dispute....You didn't even bother to provide links in your OP. Just told us to google the quotes....
Desedit on 2-5-2012 by Destinyone because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by grey580
protects the rights of human persons between conception and birth;
This is just silly.
Even the site you linked says this bill has a 1% chance of being passed.
This bill if it even get passed will be at the steps of the supreme court in a heartbeat.
Don't they from upon limitation of judicial power?
Ahh, but if president, there are other avenues to take. He wont get it passed as long as he isnt elected. If he is president, it changes the whole ballgame.
Originally posted by Destinyone
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by grey580
protects the rights of human persons between conception and birth;
This is just silly.
Even the site you linked says this bill has a 1% chance of being passed.
This bill if it even get passed will be at the steps of the supreme court in a heartbeat.
Don't they from upon limitation of judicial power?
Ahh, but if president, there are other avenues to take. He wont get it passed as long as he isnt elected. If he is president, it changes the whole ballgame.
Why are you so afraid of Dr. Paul being elected. Perhaps you are a Woman fearing loss of rights....
Des
Originally posted by emberscott
reply to post by FreedomXisntXFree
So is that what all that mumbo jumbo in sec. 3 and sec. 4 is about? The fed can override state law?
Seeing lots of deflections in this thread. Ive yet to see a valid counterpoint.
Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by captaintyinknots
All I can say is, you are so narrow minded, if you turned sideways, you'd disappear....
Des