Tighten your belts, scientists tell the world's rich

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posted on May, 2 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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[more I have already addressed that in my past post. What kind of perso will willingly sterilize themselves ? we know birth control is not 100 percent, so we, in the name of good, sterilize them against their will. We do this since everyone knows that simple birth control techniques sooner or later fail. Either way it is nature to want to procreate.

Do u condone mass sterilization? How is that worse than starving? Your livelyhood is compromised either way.

Id rather nature be the cause for depopulation - not man's manipulation of its own species.

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posted on May, 2 2012 @ 05:28 PM
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I am so completely sick of their never ending agenda to hell.

NO, not any of their solutions, Thanks but PASS.

Now they have been given solutions, lots of really really good ones, problem is, it means:

1. TRUTH. Disclosure. And sharing all those upgrades in technologies.

2. TRUTH. All their dirty little secrets exposed and they step down.

3. We don't have ruler, or theocracies, NWO, or fascists. It means the end of BANKING and REALTORS. It means complete end of the SCARSITY SYSTEM.

Its means a combination of these two things RUN GRASS ROOTS COUNCILS OF CITIZENS.

And they didn't want birth control in developing nations, no because SHARIA and THEOCRACIES are part and parcel of both their NWO Fourth Reicht Nazi plans, but also part and parcel of how they want to secure all resources for themselves and make all people go back to primitive times. So they're gods and we're savage post industrial, theocracies, cutting each others hands off and abusing all women and children, because women are SOPHIA energy, ie. EQUALITY.

NEVER.

So whoever is behind this, look at the solutions there are and stop working for the dark side.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Paradise or Oblivion - new documentary by The Venus Project,

Abundance, Not Scarsity. Free Energy, and wonderful clean HIGHLY ADVANCED technologies. All people share equally in land and resources, without one day of slavery being required. NOT NEEDED. But we all get highly educated and able to shine our lights, except for family obligations, children and health reasons, we want a world were even a child on the streest in the Phillipnies gets to grow up in a wonderful home and can be an artist, writer, musciian, teacher, counselor, rocket scientits and let his heart's biggest dreams come true, but only at say 20 hours a week, and if he wants to spend 10 years out with the kids, and be a good dad, GREAT.

No FORCING ANYONE.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
No Matter What Your Politics, Why Is Anyone Living In Poverty?

The only countries with increasing populations are the developing ones, especially the ones that suppress women and children. The rest seem to have close to 0 growth. Wonder why????????



Fishing in the Phoenix Earthship

Homes, big beautiful ones, and by the way, there is ample room, we can all have land and farms, huge indoor greenhouses, these ones are made of recycled goods, only use solar and wind, though I would add TESLA COILS TO THE MIX, and recylce water.

There is no shortage of anything JUST IN THEIR HEADS.

THey're the reason for the population explosion its all going according to their NWO plan to try and stop equality and progression for the human race.

Did you know they created touchable holograms?????? That is a real shocker now isn't it? Imagine living in a holographic universe that we probalby could live in touchable holographic homes already.

Did you know they can grow a mercedes benz from a seed on a vine, GMO takes on a whole new dimension!!!

Did you know that a computer can be virtualized in quartz, and quartz can be grow in laboratories.

That meat can come from cloning muscles and raised in clean factories, with free energy, without killing consciousness and without it being GMO. Clean, no need for antibiotics, just organic and clean operation.

Though I 'll still take clean unpasterized organic milk Thank You.

They're whole agenda is crapola. This could be solved within months or a year, no starvation on earth, lovely homes for all.

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posted on May, 2 2012 @ 05:39 PM
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I dont play games with lies and want the liars in jail for all the harm they have caused people, unless they step down and change this world to total equality revealing everything including their lies in religions, all of them including the middle eastern ones, this is certainly not an anti Christian post, and spend their lifetime in simple robes, in simple yurts helping everyone they can, because this world is just a bunch of lies strung together to keep their power and their greed going and htey walk over everyone else all the time.

They use the poor like tools.

There has been nothing but 100% solutions released for decades.

There are no problems when solutions are there. This isn't about problems its about A CRIME IN BURYING THE SOLUTIONS.
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posted on May, 2 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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And by rich i bet they mean low and mid level income groups. Take for example taxes.. Every damn time they claim to increase taxes for the rich, it is usually the mid and low income groups that is affected most even if they dont directly increase your taxes.
Take for example property taxes.. Here they keep increasing them and claim it will only affect the rich, but yet even i as a low income group is affected directly since that also means house rent prices will go up.
Same thing with things like gasoline taxes.. it makes the food and services more expensive which will hardly even affect the wealthiest.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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I like what you said, i think if technology is out there, then why supress it, if it does good to humanity. We all could live in our own nice homes and have a happy family, but we suppressed all the time so that the greedy have a place on earth so that they can remind us that they are better than us. Due to the fact that they put us down all the time.




posted on May, 2 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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Earthship documentary

This is -40 with no heat required.

But you know, due to our scarsity system this one is not as big and lush as they can be, doesnt have the big greenhouses either.

But even in our monied system, they don't work at anything they don't want to. Its all paid for.

But there ABC's, ie fundamental issues that go before any ISM's, any policial isms, like conservatism, communism, socialism, liberal ism, totalitarianism, philosophies, Religions, All of It.

The fundamental Virtues or Common Laws of not harming another. Slavery is harm. We are all co-owners of this planet.

So whoever agreed to work like a slave and left the majority on the curb, patting themselves on the back for being such a good hard working ethical slave, you sold the human race out, because you don't violate the basic rules of not harm and you can't take away everyones right to equality.

All people were allowed to do is add to the inventions and creations not enlsave the world, you add, but you can't take from anyone. You volunteer but you can't force. Anythign else is a HELLZONE OF EVIL.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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i like how they say rich "countries" not rich "people". i have a feeling people like us who live in an apartment and have a car to drive around occasionaly are the ones these people are talking about. not the people who have 20 ocean side homes and fly to work on their private jets daily



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by cloaked4u
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I like what you said, i think if technology is out there, then why supress it, if it does good to humanity. We all could live in our own nice homes and have a happy family, but we suppressed all the time so that the greedy have a place on earth so that they can remind us that they are better than us. Due to the fact that they put us down all the time.



Yes. The solutions have been there for a long time, and not just in this generation. When solutions are buried to keep the ruling elect in power and the banks rolling in money, then everything that has happened is a crime. And the problems they are speaking of are lies, they are misdirection.

The problems we really have are something else, and those are the ones we need to work on.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 06:12 PM
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With solutions like this, how can these scientists even speak without fear of losing all credibility?

What, they don't research, they're uniformed??? A 12 year is more informed on facebook?

I'm surrpised anyone ever takes one word they say seriously!!!!

Electric cars have a problem, namely electric batteries dont do highway speed or pull loads. Well Japan came out with good tech, but then Fukushima has put a damper on them?

This is just a tiny scant look out of possibly thousands of buried solutions.


Eliica Electric Car Vs Porsche 911 Turbo


Japanese Company Invents Water Fueled Car


Geothermal Energy in Iceland


Houses made from Industral Hemp Pt 5/5 'Conversations with Robyn'

This isn't even contending with their exotic energies buried.

www.unfpa.org...
Rapid Growth in Less Developed Regions

geography.about.com...

I've often wondered how they expect the population to double at all in say Canada, when nearly half of all women were choosing to remain childless, and those studies were conducted years ago.

www.bbc.co.uk...

www.nytimes.com...







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posted on May, 2 2012 @ 06:40 PM
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more people, more work, more resources.

the problem isn't the earths population, it's the lack of the number one resource that is being hoarded and kept out of the general economy and the majority of the peoples hands by the benevolent 1%, money.

sure your iphone will be outdated next year, and sitting in drawer.

but that $700 you paid for it goes to apples coffers, never to be seen or used by anyone else ever again.

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posted on May, 2 2012 @ 07:41 PM
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You posted a link to your own thread and you did some heavy advertisement for same here.

I call spam.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
Electric cars have a problem, namely electric batteries dont do highway speed or pull loads.


Nissan Leaf does 90 miles per hour. Does that qualify as "highway speed"?

You posted either a total lie or a regretfully misinformed statement. Either way, your street cred goes down the toilet.

Peace.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 08:05 PM
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There are some pretty naive posts on this thread. The only reason that enough food exists now is the innovations that can only come form the Free Market. Minus that the suffering would be many times worse.

This is pure propaganda.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7
Interesting logic. So anyone you disagree with is a 'spoiled brat'? And who are these people who 'saved up', specifically? You mean industries who have enriched themselves off of resource extraction and war profiteering in a market they have created for the own protection?


I didn't say anyone. This topic has a particular context and I spoke within that particular context. This group of scientists, who made their living from research funding ['consumption'], through people who saved and invested in that research funding, are now claiming that there can be no more funding for research because a few pseudoscientists are worried that the world will explode. This is nothing but a political power grab by fascists.

Those last two sentences don't really correlate to what you're saying so i'm not sure what it is you're saying.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 08:39 PM
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No surprise here, the world is not infinite and not bing infinite means there are 'limitations'. Dosn't take a great deal of mental gymnastics to figure that one out. We ought to have treaded softly and wisely upon this earth as is becomming a being of intelligence.

The idea that technology is our saviour is folly when we ourselves do not also evolve. I agree with other posters hear though that the solution is not in draconian measures. Draconian measures are for the intellectually lazy.

I don't understand why so many people struggle with the fact that the world can only sustaine so much or why it is so offensice to people to consider reproductive responsibility. After all, indengenous tribes consider it all the time. They understand the importance of maintaining a balance with nature. Perhapes they understand this and are not offended because they do not live in disconnect with nature (and reality) like so many in the world do today, even myself.

The strain is clear and not only do humans suffer but also other life as well. For those who think humans only matter do show their ignorance and disconnect from nature and reality and would not understand the importance of other life as they should. All things being connected share in each other...all things also operate in accord to certain laws, for example, love, light, and prayers has yet to adresse the gulf oil spill fukishima desaster.

People shake their fists at the 'rulers' yet perhapes we are just as guilty. It was us who surrendered our power to 'others' and expected them to 'do it all for us' without vigilence. Collective responsibility is just as much a reality as individual responsibility.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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Elementary my dear Watson, elementary.
Great topic,

S&F



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
There are some pretty naive posts on this thread. The only reason that enough food exists now is the innovations that can only come form the Free Market.


I agree that there are a lot of naive posts here. I also have few gripes against the free market, although I wouldn't use capital letters when writing it down, because doing so might be construed as fetish. You get the point.

In reality, lots of food was available throughout history even in conditions that did not constitute the free market. Just wanted to add for sake of clarity.
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posted on May, 2 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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I am going to disagree completely with this from an American standpoint. Populations here are on the decline, even in minorities. What the future will be left with is an urban wasteland of infrastructure that is too costly to maintain. In 20 years we could be looking at 20% FEWER Americans.

The rest of the planet is different just as we are. Some places like Africa have resource issues and this article absolutely is targeted to them. India as well and parts of the Asian Pacific.

Europe is in the boat with us also.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 10:03 PM
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Okay, so we are at the same place we were 2000 years ago. Just more support for Jesus's way of doing thing. He only had 12 people, and he almost toppled all of evil. We must suck, not the u.s., not Iran, but our understanding of things. 7 billion can't even get them to say sorry. That group of 13 has more courage, compassion, and love for fellow man, than the entirety of the collective conscious today, and gave the whole sense of wrong a run for their money. (that was a pun). But seriously, wtf are you guys doing. There's not just one way about things, and is vastly different no matter where you go. To each, his own. Congrats, you proved a universal law! And something been around for ages, man. Tell us something we don't know! Like, how to make solar panels charge a 9v battery, how to convert algae, to energy. Why the hell don't we build a manna machine? We even know how! Like I said, all we can do NOW, is pray that we have the faith to weed out the bad. The times leading up to this were necessary, but not anymore, transcend to a different kind of thought.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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And then the scientists finish their work day and drive home in their luxury vehicles to their nice houses


It's one thing to preach these messages, entirely different thing to actually live by them.






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