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Economic collapse - why it can't be stopped

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posted on May, 1 2012 @ 07:57 PM
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Some time ago, I have come to understand why there is no way to save global economy from bankrupting and i just have to share it! There is no way out. Global economic collapse is imminent and as many of you already know, it was intelligently planned a century ago. It can't be stopped. because there is:
More debt than money in the world -> Debt is unpayable -> country bankrupts.
So this is a chronology of events as I believe:

1. Economic Collapse
Because, as I said - debt is larger than the money in circulation and it cannot be paid off. This is how it happend: People gives money (taxes) to the government. The government lends money to banks with interest rate of e.g. 1%. Then Banks lends money to us (the people) with interest rates of e.g. 7%. But we don't have the money to pay this 7% because that money is not in circulation. Same thing happens on a global level with countries.
More simple: we pay them to lend them money.

2. Nations can't pay the debt, then it sells itself to pay for debt.
Nations sells land, natural resources and evetnually sells itselves (Mass privatization)

3. Private Corporations buys country, by country.
Corporations which are responsible for economic collapse (such as The Rockefeller Group)

4. Eventually, Corporations merge into one called - New World Order
All Corporations merge buying each other into a - New World Order

-> You can call this a Debt Doctrine, or a Slave Doctrine.

So that's why it can't be stopped - Because the debt is unpayable.

I guess the economic collapse will happen in 2012? perhaps even in this month!
That's the way I understand it. Do you guys agree? I believe many already knew this stuff. Anyway, sorry for my bad english... Just want to hear your thoughts on this.
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posted on May, 1 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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Notice: In USA, the Federal Reserve is responsible for lending the money to banks with interest rate of only 1% (and then the banks lend YOU the money with interest rate of e.g. 7%)!
You got to get MAD!



posted on May, 1 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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Yup, I believe you hit the nail on the head.

I doubt it will collapse this month, perhaps not even this year. They are going to milk the bailouts and stimulus for all it's worth while they still can. But its going to happen sooner or later. It's inevitable.
I hope it happens soon, I am getting bored waiting.



posted on May, 1 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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Yup that just about sums it in a nut shell. But I think they believe the BOAT doctrine is how we are going to stay and live.

Bend
Over
And
Take it

However there is hope... As far as money as CASH .... IF... we survive the downturn and fall will always be silver and gold.... period no paper

IF SHTF the only valuable metals will be BRASS COPPER LEAD in ammo.


Either or both are good investments but they want the NWO to happen but it's all manure pure cow plop.
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posted on May, 1 2012 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by watchitburn
It's inevitable.
I hope it happens soon, I am getting bored waiting.

me too



Originally posted by merkej23
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However there is hope... As far as money as CASH .... IF... we survive the downturn and fall will always be silver and gold.... period no paper

IF SHTF the only valuable metals will be BRASS COPPER LEAD in ammo.


Either or both are good investments but they want the NWO to happen but it's all manure pure cow plop.
edit on 1-5-2012 by merkej23 because: last thoughts
Or... digital currency if NWO realises. you know - mark of the beast, chip implantant so they know on what you spend your money - absolute control.
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posted on May, 1 2012 @ 08:31 PM
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Everything here may be plausible, but having more debt than money in the world doesn't change anything. Debt gets paid over time so we are looking at debt versus potential profit. When you look at that though, it still means we are screwed. Ha.



posted on May, 1 2012 @ 08:31 PM
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I don't remember the date of this but back in time somewhere a King said anything over 1% interest was a crime because it was wrong to get over 1% for not producing anything. Wish it was looked on that way today.
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posted on May, 1 2012 @ 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by Poopooplatter
Everything here may be plausible, but having more debt than money in the world doesn't change anything. Debt gets paid over time so we are looking at debt versus potential profit. When you look at that though, it still means we are screwed. Ha.
Yep, we are screwed. And no, there is no way to earn that interest rates on time, they keep increasing. I think it is in fact impossible. However there is a solution! Cancel all debt. - It will be the most moral decision ever made. It would save us from those evil globalist banksters. But that is highly unlikely to happen. Even Ron Paul as a president would not have that power.



posted on May, 1 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Fichorka

Originally posted by Poopooplatter
Everything here may be plausible, but having more debt than money in the world doesn't change anything. Debt gets paid over time so we are looking at debt versus potential profit. When you look at that though, it still means we are screwed. Ha.
Yep, we are screwed. And no, there is no way to earn that interest rates on time, they keep increasing. I think it is in fact impossible. However there is a solution! Cancel all debt. - It will be the most moral decision ever made. It would save us from those evil globalist banksters. But that is highly unlikely to happen. Even Ron Paul as a president would not have that power.


No but we do



posted on May, 1 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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3. Private Corporations buys country, by country.
Corporations which are responsible for economic collapse (such as The Rockefeller Group)

4. Eventually, Corporations merge into one called - New World Order
All Corporations merge buying each other into a - New World Order


This is already happening and well along in the agenda.

Many of the largest corporations (including banks) are "owned" by very big blocks of the same "stockholders" that have holdings through the investment institutions.

The international central bank system is the base for "government" control.



posted on May, 1 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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Perhaps not cancelling debt as someone gets away with too much, but rather a debasing of the debt of everyone by a certain percentage (say 75%) so more money is in circulation vs the amount owed.
Derivatives and some other exotic financial instruments should be worthless, any and all reselling of debts should be cancelled and only original debt contracts given consideration,
I believe economic collapse is coming too, anywhere from this summer or at latest by February.
A major "reset" of the Western financial system is inevitable and it may well trigger a war or internal revolutions.
I think everyone should have several months worth of everything you might need to live on hand - food, water, medicines, security and energy if possible (compressed gas, cord wood, solar panels, batteries etc)
Time is running short folks, it's going to be a long, hot summer.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 06:58 AM
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You got it wrong. Inflation is what keeps the economy going in a time of prosperity. With that system in place, money loses its value, that way it becomes harder for even families doing well to ascent to aristocracy, so the next generation will have to work and produce. Look at the wipeout of 2007/2008.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 10:24 AM
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posted on May, 2 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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So much truth being spread here, as there has been many times before on the same subject. If every time we discussed it here on ATS, just 1 more person woke up to the scam that is the Banking System, then I would talk about it constantly.

This has been doing the rounds over the last few years, but in my opinion, this little gem should be made to be displayed in every town / city main street, real big like, in lights:

www.usdebtclock.org...

The derivatives market is such a farce, virtually uncensored or regulated, it is just a bunch of "drunken" traders let loose in a casino.

As said earlier, debt forgiveness may be an option for some in localised or smaller areas, as has reputedly happened in Iceland. Apparently, the USA is not too keen for people to read about it. Just click on the headline for full story

www.care2.com...

Like many others, I feel the timing of the alleged collapse is crucial, in that there is a reason why it has not been instigated yet. I feel the crash will come just when it is requested, just as other events similar have been finely orchestrated in a manipulated perpetual boom and bust cycle.

Like previous posters have mentioned, it would be prudent to look at ways to become prepared. In my opinion it would include things such as building an inventory of items you cannot go without if the shops dry up, look to trim your financial outgoings on luxury items and switch to spending on essentials instead. (If like me you like a smoke and a beer this is hard!) Look to establish more longer term goals which mean you will less rely on the system for day to day stuff, like grow your own produce and joining forces with neighbours to pool resources.

There is a lot of very confusing and conflicting information out there which can drive you mad, but in essence it is really quite simple, plan for the worst case scenario and whatever happens, you will at least be partly prepared.

I watched the final Aaron Russo interview on Showcase TV last night, reflections and warnings. The man was a genuine guiding light, and put this situation so much better than any of us could do here I am sure.

www.youtube.com...

Enjoy if you haven't yet watched it.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 04:55 PM
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Breaking news: Many nations are preparing to move from the dollar as a reserve currency! It is begining! Finally.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 05:01 PM
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good thread here,man I trade currency and I say yep....it's planned, dambit
for the us dollar it's a "race to the bottom".......starting in a week...lasting at least three years....according to Elliot wave views
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ps....that sends the dow to 30,000
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posted on May, 2 2012 @ 06:07 PM
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They can try cashless,on that day I'll be off to the forest...who wants in?


And I too am tired of waiting



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 06:13 PM
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I don't see a sudden collapse. I think that it will take years.

Unemployment will continue to be high and many people will end up working for far less money than they are used to.

Inflation will kick in. In response, the government will print more money which will lead to more inflation.

So, it will spiral down slowly.

Smart people will figure out what will have value and put some of their money into these things before it gets too bad.

Many people won't realize there is a problem until they go to the grocery store and the shelves are almost empty.



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 11:14 PM
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Perhaps all you Americans have been living in a dream-world, but does that make it any less meaningful? You must re-examine your values! Is money all the meaning you have found in life? Would you be willing to get mad and lose your life over something as trivial? I am the Prophet.



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