What is happening in the skies over Northern Ohio?

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posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 04:12 PM
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Check this out...

We've been talking about this since 9-22 when callers reported seeing a UFO that morning.

EDIT:Caps is happening

[edit on 29-9-2004 by Kano]




posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 04:17 PM
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I wanna see some pics.

I hate to say this, but having seen a lot of interferometery patterns... thats what it sounds like.

I don't buy the weather control stuff...but if this has thousands of witnesses, i'll put a LOT more into it.



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 04:37 PM
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You should do some reading on them very interesting. In one thread here someone had mentioned them they said Red Blood Cells were found in samples that had been collected. Also Aluminum and Barium Salts when you see those pretty pink/purple clouds in the evening well, beware Bariun Salts. People talk about weather modifications some think they could also be dispensing drugs in them and in many trails people have taken pictures of UFO'S in them.
There are thousands of people looking into this and samples are being gathered. It seems that is you write to the news people your state you get no replies back.
They have groups for this a people report in what and where is being sprayed everyday. I know I myself gave up after counting 19 planes at the same time and there were more.
Just watch your skies and you will see the straight lines, X's and grid patterns.
Also in Ohio people have been reporting some type of a pick up in military movement I forget what base they said it was.



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 05:17 PM
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Here are the photos.

Definately chemtrails









This is rediculous, nice sunny day and you have got man made clouds!



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 05:22 PM
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OK gang, I don't get this whole chemtrail thing. They're airliner contrails. I am an airline pilot and make 'em all the time. What am I missing?



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by OpenMinded


OK gang, I don't get this whole chemtrail thing. They're airliner contrails. I am an airline pilot and make 'em all the time. What am I missing?


A heavy dose of paranoia.

Sorry to those I offend, but there is no reason to think chemtrails actually exist. Sure, you can believe it, but you can believe anything if you want to.



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 05:33 PM
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It's a good idea not to type titles in all caps......there's the possibility of it being deleted.....



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 05:34 PM
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I dont beleive it, but i do wonder why some contrails last longer and spread out and others just dissapear within a few seconds/minutes.

Im not actually bothered as even if they were chemtrails they dont seem to do much anyway?

They dont alter the weather they dont control anyones mind, so even if they were chemtrails what the hell are they supposed to do.



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 06:30 PM
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This is very interesting, I just finished listening to all the callers from the radio station in the original post. There is more going on then has been brought up in this thread so far. The chemtrails/contrails are just a part of it. Not only are the skies covered with these trails, there are reports of fighter jets scrambled and flying in circles, UN convoys, military road blocks, delivery of large military equipment, strange lights in the sky (color blotches, shooting star like object blue and green falling straight down) 2 different shooting star like objects and GPS systems shutting off.

So what is going on? Is the military blanketing the skies with chemtrails to hide something? To me this is the most obvious answer. Why would the GPS systems be shut down? Does anyone have any idea's?

Ycon



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 06:43 PM
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The pictures are definitely CONTRAILS.

All commercial aircraft fly along 'highways' in the sky, while flying they make a contrail. Commercial aircraft must have a degree of separation from each other to avoid accidents.

********plane>************plane>*************plane>*********

The contrails get moved by the winds at that altitude which is why they appear to move or appear in a checker board pattern North/south traffic at one altitude, east/west traffic at another altitude.

Oldest contrail *********

older contrail********

new contrail************plane>


I find it absolutely AMAZING that all those people claim they saw something else in the sky and yet there are NO PHOTOS or VIDEO???? Come on people, get real, stop smoking dope.



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 06:46 PM
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I'm a little skeptical, though being pretty sure that UFOs do exist I'd like to believe this.

Too bad there aren't any photos/videos of the 'coloured lights'.



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 06:47 PM
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do a search here and you'll see a rather informative post about chemtrails. the poster is an engineer from boeing (I think).



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 06:50 PM
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I find it fascinating that the mountains of evidence that chemtrails are real and do occur alot all over the US yet people just turn away and deny deny deny. They explain it away with "the temperature at those altitudes" causes them its called condensation- theory.

I honestly believe these skeptics would just stand by if they started rounding people up here in America and executing them in public for no reason but speaking out against gov. They would rationalize it someway.


I have come to the conclusion that it wont be liberals that destroy us, it wont be neo con warhawks and this present administration nor even Islamic terrorists. It will be the anti-conspiracy theorist. A much greater danger to humanity than the paranoid grassy knoll anti-gov type.



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posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 07:05 PM
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Good idea to use chemtrails to hide whatever goes on above certain altitudes.

Im curious, are there more chemtrails now than lets say 10 years ago?

Maybe people will say well yeah thats because there are more aircraft and commercial airlines now than back in those days, but im asking has there been an increase in these chemtrails.



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 07:23 PM
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Markjaxson-

I live in Austin Tx and its a weekly occurence here. One minute it will be clear blue sky and then here come the trails. Interesting thing, I have seen planes at the very same altutudes or very close, same time of day not make the trails when others are laying them down in droves. This thread has sparked another interest in this anomaly. I will start a 2 month personal research project identifying planes at similar altitudes 1. The aircraft that lay the chemtrails down and the ones that dont. Im confident I can catch the 2 at the same time, I have many times before.

Condensation?



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by Chuck Stevenson
The pictures are definitely CONTRAILS.

All commercial aircraft fly along 'highways' in the sky, while flying they make a contrail. Commercial aircraft must have a degree of separation from each other to avoid accidents.

The contrails get moved by the winds at that altitude which is why they appear to move or appear in a checker board pattern North/south traffic at one altitude, east/west traffic at another altitude.

I find it absolutely AMAZING that all those people claim they saw something else in the sky and yet there are NO PHOTOS or VIDEO???? Come on people, get real, stop smoking dope.


Chuck Stevenson, even though your a pilot and think you know that there are no chemtrails and that what everyone sees are just contrails, I wonder if you're open minded to the possibility that there are chemicals in the contrails?

There have been reports in the past that other pilots have noticed additions to their fuel tanks.

Also if you notice in my last post, I brought up that the military may be covering something up. Is it possible? Yes it is.

Ycon



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by project_pisces
I find it fascinating that the mountains of evidence that chemtrails are real

What evidence? I have asked before, never been given it. What evidence establishes that there are things that look like contrails but are actually the result of secret government efforts to spray exotic chemicals into the air? Whats the evidence? Can you present it here? If there is a website you are thinking of, can you link to it and discuss some of the best evidence it offers (ala the news submissions)

The photo you posted, what makes those chemtrails, rather than contrails?

You also reject the meterological explanation of contrails. What, specifically, is the flaw in these theories? Why are all the meteoroligists wrong and you are right?



posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
What evidence? I have asked before, never been given it. What evidence establishes that there are things that look like contrails but are actually the result of secret government efforts to spray exotic chemicals into the air? Whats the evidence? Can you present it here? If there is a website you are thinking of, can you link to it and discuss some of the best evidence it offers (ala the news submissions)

The photo you posted, what makes those chemtrails, rather than contrails?

You also reject the meterological explanation of contrails. What, specifically, is the flaw in these theories? Why are all the meteoroligists wrong and you are right?


This is an excellent question, and one that I look forward to reading the answers to.


jra

posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by project_pisces
I honestly believe these skeptics would just stand by if they started rounding people up here in America and executing them in public for no reason but speaking out against gov. They would rationalize it someway.



Just because some people are skeptical about chemtrails and a few other far out things doesn't mean they would accept the killing of people, and surely wouldn't deny it. Especially if it were public. I myself would be horrified.

I don't think you understand what a skeptic is. Some people just like to have all the facts (or at least enough), before they believe something like this. So far there is no evidence of chemtrails of any kind other than, "Look they last longer then most!!", which hardly proves anything other than a lack of scientific understanding of how things work.

[edit on 8-10-2004 by astrocreep]



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 12:51 AM
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yea what he said





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