If you believe that an intelligent designer created the universe, or that a perfect, omnipotent god created the universe, then this argument is
directed at you.
I ask that anyone wishing to participate in the debate does so with an open mind, having respect for the others opinions, and i also ask that you read
my entire post before making a response. Let this be a civilized, Intelligent
The idea of intelligent design is unintelligent, implausible though it may seem.. let me elaborate:
I'm going to start with a quote from the book god is not great, by Christopher Hitchens..
The anatomy of the human eye, in fact, shows anything but "intelligence" in its design. It is built upside down and backwards, requiring photons of
light to travel through the cornea, lens, aquaeous fluid, blood vessels, ganglion cells, amacrine cells, horizontal cells, and bipolar cells before
they reach the light sensitive rods and cones that transduce the light signal into neural impulses—which are then sent to the visual cortex at the
back of the brain for processing into meaningful patterns. For optimal vision, why would an intelligent designer have built an eye upside down and
backwards ? It is because we evolved from sightless bacteria, now found to share our DNA, that we are so myopic. These are the same ill-designed
optics, complete with deliberately "designed" retinal blind spot, through which earlier humans claimed to have "seen" miracles "with their own
eyes." The problem in those cases was located elsewhere in the cortex, but we must never forget Charles Darwin's injunction that even the most
highly evolved of us will continue to carry "the indelible stamp of their lowly origin."
Look around in the world, do you see any perfection, do you see anything that would serve as evidence for an intelligent creator? I see disease,
hunger, poverty, war, and natural disasters. just by observing these things, 3 of which are man made, we can start to see the imperfection in it all.
Why would a creator create such horrible things? Why is there the need for natural disasters such as hurricanes, earthquakes, and volcanoes? If in
fact a creator did create all these things, then we need to question the morality of the creator.
Now think about the Solar System we live in.. There is only one planet in our entire solar system that can support human life, and that planet, is
very climaticly unstable; if it were a little bit closer to the sun, it would be to hot to support life, if it were a little further away from the
sun, it would be to cold to support life. What would be the purpose for a creator to create a planet that is constantly on the brink of destruction?
Why would a creator create all these other planets that have no potential to support human life?
It seems a bit unintelligent that a creator would create the sun only to later have it burn out, causing us all to die out with it.
Many creationists will point out "How can you get something out of nothing, there has to be a creator".. My response to that is: The same question
in return, if your god was the creator of the universe, then he too had to have come from somewhere or something.. Who designed the designer and who
designed that designer, etc etc..
What we know right now is that we have something, but we don't know where the something comes from. We only have theory's such as the Big Bang
theory that attempt at explaining it. We also know, that we have a great deal of nothing headed straight for us.
If you look into the night sky in certain parts of the world, you can see the Andromeda Galaxy headed straight for us, on a collision course. There is
a lot of uncertainty surrounding what exactly will happen when the two galaxies collide, but many speculate is would bring on the destruction of our
galaxy, taking us along with it. The predicted time this is to occur is about 3-5 billion years. By the time this occurs, we may already cease to
exist due to the planet heating to extreme temperatures that would make it impossible to live under, or the dieing out of our sun.
But, if we some how miraculously make it through all of this, we still have not escaped nothingness, because the universe has an inevitable end (known
as heat death). Since the universe had a beginning, it is not eternal, as a result, it will have an end.
Some design right...
Who designed the coming nothingness? It doesn't seem like a design to me much less an intelligent design..
The best explanation (that we have right now) is that the origin of the universe was the big bang, and instead of being caused by a creator, it was
You may choose to believe that an intelligent designer created the universe, but i say to you, all your work is still ahead of you.
It seems very improbable that this universe we live in was created by an intelligent designer, on the other hand, it seems more probable however, that
the universe was happened out of random chance..
I encourage any deist or theist to debate this with me, try to prove to me that a creator created the universe.
But as i said earlier, all your work is still ahead of you.