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You have completely become unhinged here tonight son. Calm down and just stick to the subject like everyone else but you has done. Yeah, we played your game earlier, but can we move on now? You obviously still desire chaos here instead of logical discussion.
Why is that so hard for your under-developed brain to comprehend? FUKUSHIMA, FUKUSHIMA, FUKUSHIMA is the subject of the thread. It's effects on the Pacific Ocean is the subject of the thread. Why is it that you want to sway the discussion into some meaningless disagreement between you and I? Are you that bored down their in Mom's basement, or can you even make one single point here? Can you have a discussion about Fukushima and the results of the disaster concerning it's effects on the Pacific ocean, which I reside right off of?
Jeezus, can you actually discuss the subject, or is this forum just some sort of joke for you?
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by SheopleNation
Are you a Bot?
I'm just asking because you are repeating yourself quite often.
Originally posted by SheopleNation
I only care about being a part of the grass rooted efforts to find a solution to the Nuclear tragedy problem, as well as the next big issue which is the nuclear waste issue that 477 Nuclear reacotr sites world wide must face. Best wishes ~$heopleNation
AGAIN, all I want to discuss is the subject of the thread which is if Fukushima is polluting the Pacific ocean or not? Why is that so hard for your weak mind to comprehend kid? My god I think I have witnessed tonight stuck on stupid on an entire new level.
You are not talking about the subject at hand, despite your insistence that I stick to the topic (which I am doing, despite your most DESPERATE efforts to troll)
Honestly, I just feel sorry for you at this point...
Are you reading off of a script or something?
Would you like to comment on the amount of radioisotopes that have so far been released into the earths atmosphere or oceans?
Do you have that information?
Would you know what this information even means if you were to see it?
Despite your continued attempts to construct straw men to attack, I have never once claimed that there is no radiation.
I have never once claimed that Fukushima isn't effected by the radiation, or that the exclusion zone is some place that anyone should visit, or live for the foreseeable future.
MY point of contention is that the radiation that has been released, will quickly be incorporated into the normal background radiation levels, because the concentrations of the radiation at the Fukushima facility is not the same concentration that the radioactive material will be at in Every other place in the world.
And this is just basic logic, of which I'm sure you are not formally acquainted....
That an amount of material dispersed to the wind will never be as concentrated as it was when it was first dispensed.
The purpose of the experiments was to assess the effect of radioactivity on the human body. For example, between April 1945 and July 1947, 18 people were injected with plutonium by doctors associated with the Manhattan Project. None of these men, women, and children were told what was being done, and none gave informed consent. Most of the subjects, Welsome writes, "were the poor, the powerless, and the sick -- the very people who count most on the government to protect them".
Defend your position that the pollution of the pacific ocean from Fukushima is not happening
A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.
Originally posted by SheopleNation
Uh oh! Someone in Japan might kill themself because we are discussing the Fukushima disaster! Oh my god, what were we thinking? How insensitive of us all. We may as well just ignore any global catastrophe from here on out in order to avoid hurtng anyones feelings by reporting the facts. What a complete joke, not to mention an insult to the honor of the Japanese people.
Japan suicide rates hit 2-year high in May - CNN
Japan was struck by a devastating earthquake and tsunami on March 11, and continues to grapple with a nuclear meltdown at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. National suicide figures increased the two months following the disaster, the figures show. The most populous region of Tokyo saw the highest number of suicides in May at 325, the agency said. In the area hit hardest by the nuclear crisis, Fukushima saw 19 more suicides in May 2011 compared with May last year, with a total of 68.
Suicide in Japan on the rise after Fukushima disaster
Tokyo- Japan’s Fukusima nuclear meltdown, result of a catastrophic earthquake, tsunami, and human error, is leading to yet another meltdown of sorts as new data has begun showing the region is experiencing an alarming rise in suicides.
Everyone has had 9 pages now, a year in fact, to present real hard data from controlled / documented cases / studies and I've yet to see it at this juncture as I assume people would be reposting the citations everyday.
That isn't to say this stuff isn't amongst the nastiest known, but to speak specific outcomes or whatever as truth is dishonest as its speaking assumptions. Even that bleeding seals article doesn't even say they have actual radiation poisoning, which I think everyone would assume would be detectable with that amount of damage. The wound pictured also looks consistent with some VOC wounds I've seen which easily could have been caused by underwater oil seeps as it is Alaska afterall.
And with all of the media disinfo I've seen put out to push the global warming agenda it wouldn't surprise me if the media would simply leave it an open ended question after framing it as nuclear caused
Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
Look here don't waste my time with rhetoric,start providing me with the citations and their links .That would be helpful.assumptions can be misguided like you believe.
while I would have agreed ,but the timing is suspicious ,which makes me suspect that it might be radiological or plutonium effect because seals are up in the food chain and hence more possible probable concentration.
P.S do you work in the energy sector or commodity investment?