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THE United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent years — or so it has seemed. A would-be suicide bomber was intercepted on his way to the Capitol; a scheme to bomb synagogues and shoot Stinger missiles at military aircraft was developed by men in Newburgh, N.Y.; and a fanciful idea to fly explosive-laden model planes into the Pentagon and the Capitol was hatched in Massachusetts.
But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. Suspects naïvely played their parts until they were arrested.
When an Oregon college student, Mohamed Osman Mohamud, thought of using a car bomb to attack a festive Christmas-tree lighting ceremony in Portland, the F.B.I. provided a van loaded with six 55-gallon drums of “inert material,” harmless blasting caps, a detonator cord and a gallon of diesel fuel to make the van smell flammable. An undercover F.B.I. agent even did the driving, with Mr. Mohamud in the passenger seat. To trigger the bomb the student punched a number into a cellphone and got no boom, only a bust.
Then comes Ruby Ridge and Wayco Texas....Seabag who knows, but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and farts like a duck, yeah, its a duck, quack quack!!!
Originally posted by Jameela
reply to post by seabag
for some reason this is not embedding today, but this is Napolitano from fox news talking about this in October last year
Originally posted by MrWendal
For anyone who looked into the 1993 bombing of the WTC, this is exactly what happened then as well, the only difference is the FBI decided to use a real device which did blow up and caused the death of others.
Is it entrapment? I am not so sure. It is a bit of a gray area, but one thing is for sure. It is a dirty practice that is deeply flawed. Fact is on any given day you can find some idiot willing to do something stupid, but would they have the means or drive to do it if they were not supplied the materials?
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My sentiments exactly! When was the last legit terrorist plot foiled? Has there ever been one?
One more dumb thought from me
It is something I have thought about actually. You know, if some fool walked up to me and offered me 25 thousand dollars to blow something up, I am going to take their money, and I am going to move. It does not cost but a couple of thousand at most to move...
I am not going to blow anything up! But you better believe I am getting that idiots money, I will turn him in anonymously after, but the money is mine!
I wonder, how many of these men they "entrapped" were thinking the same thing? They are people from poor countries, and this is a lot of money they were offered in some cases. I wonder if they were thinking of how far that would go for their families.
I don't buy most of these botched attempts. I think its just a way to convince the public that all these security measures are necessary and so they can increase them even more. Ultimately we are only left with less liberty and the illusion of security.
Ultimately we are only left with less liberty and the illusion of security.
Originally posted by thehoneycomb
This is nothing new. I think the shoe bomber was part of a similar plot. Also Jared Loughner and Columbine as part of an MK Ultra program? What about the guy that went to DC and was given smoke bombs to blow up the WH by FBI?
Heres an idea, if anybody comes at you with a hair brained idea. Don't do it.
Five people described as anarchists were arrested Monday in a Cleveland-area park for allegedly trying to blow up a bridge, sources tell Fox News.
The public was never in danger from the explosive devices, which were inoperable and controlled by an undercover FBI employee, according to sources close to the investigation.
The only crimes those pussies can solve are the one's they create!
The first priority of a bureaucracy is to grow the bureaucracy. They need more crime!