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posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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RFK assassination witness tells CNN: There was a second shooter


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As a federal court prepares to rule on a challenge to Sirhan Sirhan's conviction in the Robert F. Kennedy assassination, a long overlooked witness to the murder is telling her story: She heard two guns firing during the 1968 shooting and authorities altered her account of the crime.

Nina Rhodes-Hughes wants the world to know that, despite what history says, Sirhan was not the only gunman firing shots when Kennedy was murdered a few feet away from her at a Los Angeles hotel.
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posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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Amazing, isn't it. Maybe some day more witnesses will come out about Bobby. And maybe some days after that, we'll all learn the real truth behind the John F. Kennedy assassination. However, until that day, we're starting to learn what really happened in 1968.

Does anyone want to bet that the conspiracy does not simply stop at some random "authorities" changing her story? How high does this go? Will we ever know?

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posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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Most people in situations like that are not going to think clearly. Hughes wasn't trained to, therefore she didn't. If you don't think clearly you're not going to remember clearly either. She may believe she's right and she may actually be, but that's kind of beside the point.

What really is the point of all this? To clear Sirhans name? To prove the FBI lied? Sirhan will never have a normal life again and we know that three letter agencies lie all the time anyway. Nobody is ever going to know the real story so people just need to let it go. In this time frame 2 Kennedy's were killed and the CIA director was the first one the CIA ever had who was a lifer. When JFK was killed, McCone was in charge of the CIA and he was an outsider with no intelligence experience. Both ends of the spectrum were in charge of intelligence when a large portion of the Kennedy clan was killed.

This is why nobody will ever get to the bottom of this. There's too much that goes too deep.









posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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Sirhan Sirhan will never be innocent.
and he will never be anything more than a Patsy.
He was a shooter, no doubt, but someone else had to guarantee the kill shot.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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sorry but i dint buy for a second, there was no second shooter and no i dont believe
Sirhan Sirhan killed RFK and why i say that? because
Sirhan Sirhan didn't seem to have the talent of making that shot, remember there were reports of two shots not just one bullet.


Sirhan Sirhan was nothing more then the fall guy.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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sorry but i dint buy for a second, there was no second shooter


I 100% disagree - I posted why in another similar thread as this but I think It more than applies here as well:

The second shooter theory may seem far-fetched at first for a lot of people out there, but I think It’s very, very possible. And I think Thane Eugene Cesar is by far the most likely candidate for a second shooter too, this being the security guard who was directing Bobby Kennedy at the time of the assassination.

First off though ask yourself where Sirhan Sirhan was at the time of the assassination. He was directly in front of Bobby Kennedy. This is fact. In my personal opinion he also undoubtedly caused all of the wounds to the people behind Bobby Kennedy and the surrounding area but that's another issue.

Eugene however, well, ask yourself where he was? He was directly behind Bobby Kennedy by only a few inches, he was the closest person to him at this time in fact as he was the one holding onto Kennedy pushing him through the kitchen area.

Is that in itself proof of anything? No of course not. But looking at Bobby Kennedy's wounds there seems to be only one possible shooter here - Eugene. You see Bobby Kennedy was not struck in the front of his Body at anytime, he was struck repeatedly behind him with 2 shots entering his back and the final shot striking him in the back of the head behind his right ear. All of these shots were proven to have been fired traveling in an upward direction (proven in the autopsy by Los Angeles County coroner Thomas Noguchi who also coincidentally worked on the autopsy of Marilyn Monroe showing she died from odd circumstances too) and the final shot to Kennedy's head showed evidence of being fired from "less than one inch from the head and no more than two or three inches behind the right ear."

According to Witness Karl Ecker:


“There was a distance of at least one and one-half feet between the muzzle of Shiran’s gun and Senator Kennedy’s head. The revolver was directly in front of my nose. After Shiran’s second shot, I pushed the hand that held the revolver down, and pushed him onto the steam table. There is no way that the shots described in the autopsy could have come from Shiran’s gun. When I told this to the authorities, they told me that I was wrong. But I repeat now what I told them then: Shiran never got close enough for a point-blank shot.”
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Thane, after the assassination, also had his gun out at the time of the assassination but he claims he never fired any shots, something I, and many others, do disagree with:


After Harper published his report, Joseph P. Busch, the Los Angeles District Attorney, announced he would look into the matter. Thane Eugene Cesar was interviewed and he admitted he pulled a gun but insisted it was a Rohm .38, not a .22 (the caliber of the bullets found in Kennedy). He also claimed that he got knocked down after the first shot and did not get the opportunity to fire his gun. The LAPD decided to believe Cesar rather than Donald Schulman, Karl Uecker and William W. Harper and the case was closed.

Cesar admitted that he did own a .22 H & R pistol. However, he claimed that he had sold the gun before the assassination to a man named Jim Yoder. William W. Turner tracked down Yoder in October, 1972. He still had the receipt for the H & R pistol. It was dated 6 th September, 1968. Cesar therefore sold the pistol to Yoder three months after the assassination of Robert Kennedy.
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Thane was a Cuban American who wasn't even working at the Hotel full time when Kennedy was assassinated, something which in itself isn't too odd as people in Kennedy's position at the time actually didn't always have that great security. Thane however seemed to acquire the job only a short while before the assassination and as I've shown above, he seems to be a likely candidate for an assassin taking into consideration the wounds to Kennedy and the position of Thane. Coincidences like that can't really be ignored in my opinion.

Nor can the coincidence about our visual evidence of the attack on Kennedy, evience which seems to have been conveniently locked away:


Cesar was afraid that the assassination had been captured on film. It was. Scott Enyart, a high-school student, was taking photographs of Robert Kennedy as he was walking from the ballroom of the Ambassador Hotel to the Colonial Room where the press conference was due to take place. Enyart was standing slightly behind Kennedy when the shooting began and snapped as fast as he could. As Enyart was leaving the pantry, two LAPD officers accosted him at gunpoint and seized his film. Later, he was told by Detective Dudley Varney that the photographs were needed as evidence in the Sirhan trial. The photographs were not presented as evidence but the court ordered that all evidential materials had to be sealed for twenty years.

In 1988 Scott Enyart requested that his photographs should be returned. At first the State Archives claimed they could not find them and that they must have been destroyed by mistake. Enyart filed a lawsuit which finally came to trial in 1996. During the trial the Los Angeles city attorney announced that the photos had been found in its Sacramento office and would be brought to the courthouse by the courier retained by the State Archives. The following day it was announced that the courier’s briefcase, that contained the photographs, had been stolen from the car he rented at the airport. The photographs have never been recovered and the jury subsequently awarded Scott Enyart $450,000 in damages.
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Finally the "evidence" of a second shooter:


California prosecutors have argued that witnesses heard shots coming from only one location, but Rhodes-Hughes tells CNN that while the first two or three shots she heard came from Sirhan's position several feet in front of her, she also heard gunshots "to my right where Robert Kennedy was."

According to the autopsy report, the coroner concluded that the senator's body and clothing were struck from behind, at right rear, by four bullets fired at upward angles and at point-blank range. Yet witnesses said Sirhan fired somewhat downward, almost horizontally, from several feet in front of Kennedy, and witnesses did not report the senator's back as ever being exposed to Sirhan or his gun.

In his analysis of the Pruszynski sound recording, Philip Van Praag found that five of the gunshots captured in the tape were fired opposite the direction of Sirhan's eight shots. Van Praag also concluded that those five shots -- the third, fifth, eighth, 10th and 12th gunshots within a 13-shot sequence -- displayed an acoustical "frequency anomaly" indicating that the alleged second gun's make and model were different from Sirhan's weapon.


Thus my belief in the very plausible second shooter.

I discussed this at length in a past thread of mine here titled: The Peculiar Death Of Bobby..
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posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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Saw this article a couple of days ago now. What is really worth mentioning is that the people that killed Bobby Kennedy and JFK are the same people who are now pushing the eugenics agenda in the United Nations and using the threat of the United States might to further that agenda.

Like the Nazi war criminal George Bush Jnr stated "Your with us or your with the terrorists". That wss not directed at the population but directed at the worlds leaders. Blackmail if you will.

The only way this will be stopped if the United States citizens put a stop to it, otherwise will will see the worse genocide in history.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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After watching many documentaries on the assassination ive always thought the was a second shooter, probably in the crawl space in the ceiling shooting down from above.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by rebellender
 


sorry but i dint buy for a second, there was no second shooter and no i dont believe
Sirhan Sirhan killed RFK and why i say that? because
Sirhan Sirhan didn't seem to have the talent of making that shot, remember there were reports of two shots not just one bullet.


Sirhan Sirhan was nothing more then the fall guy.


there were 7 shots, S S had an 8 shot .22 if I remember , unspent cartridges yet to be determined?

one shot later speculated to be from a Cop with a .38



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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reply to post by Rising Against
 


I think you may have been misunderstanding his terrible English.

He appears to be saying he didnt buy the theory that there was 'no second shooter'.

Then again, it's difficult to understand what he actually meant.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 06:28 PM
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On topic, I always figured Sirhan was just a distraction (in the moment) and patsy (after the moment).

Someone else actually fired the kill shot.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 10:49 PM
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reply to post by ineverknew
 


Can't be true if it is in the MSM - TPTB would never let it be published in anything they controlled.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by Rising Against
 


I think you may have been misunderstanding his terrible English.

He appears to be saying he didn't buy the theory that there was 'no second shooter'.

Then again, it's difficult to understand what he actually meant.



First my English is just fine and that was a rushed post and i apologize for my rushed post.



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posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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Thane, after the assassination, also had his gun out at the time of the assassination but he claims he never fired any shots, something I, and many others, do disagree with:


And why do you disagree with that claim? i have seen the location where the supposed shots were fired from and honestly your forgetting one key thing.


Sirhan wasn't an marksman expert. I am sure you would agree upon that as well, even though Sirhan had military training Sirhan wasn't trained as Sniper filed specialist.


You see here the problem is you believe official claim Sirhan was the only person killed RFK without even mentioning the key facts that GW bush grandfather was director at the CIA at that time.

Other witness when RFK was shot have gun shots from behind the bushes.
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posted on May, 1 2012 @ 12:54 AM
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Proof positive that no matter how long the government hides the truth, it always finds a way to break free and float to the top of the cesspool known as Washington, D.C. It took us 40 years to learn from LBJ's ex mistress that President Johnson was in on the JFK assisination.

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posted on May, 1 2012 @ 04:25 AM
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Makes me sick...like on a hangover morning.



posted on May, 1 2012 @ 05:36 AM
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And why do you disagree with that claim?


See my post above, I explained why I disagree with that claim by Thane and I explained it at length too.

I know you haven't read my post as well btw (which actually annoys me because I actually put some time and effort into it as this is one of those topics that's important to me atleast) because you seem to be under the impression I believe Sirhan was the only shooter going from your reply there when I already explained, again at extreme length, that this is not the case, but that Thane Eugene Cesar was a second shooter. At no time did I claim or even hint in anyway towards Sirhan being the only shooter, the opposite in fact, and then you somehow belief that's what I was saying.

Please read my post.



Other witness when RFK was shot have gun shots from behind the bushes.


This makes no sense. He was shot indoors in the kitchen area of the Ambassador hotel. Not outside..
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posted on May, 1 2012 @ 07:08 AM
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so little comments over this...as if..."who the hell cares" ?

Good thing this kinda sh*** doesn't happen nowadays


I think this has just been one big misunderstanding. An unfortunate set of circumstantial coincidences that don't really amount to a conspiracy. Those Feds were just...incompetent. That's it. Another mistery solved.





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