reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter
sorry but i dint buy for a second, there was no second shooter
I 100% disagree - I posted why in another similar thread as this but I think It more than applies here as well:
The second shooter theory may seem far-fetched at first for a lot of people out there, but I think It’s very, very possible. And I think Thane
Eugene Cesar is by far the most likely candidate for a second shooter too, this being the security guard who was directing Bobby Kennedy at the time
of the assassination.
First off though ask yourself where Sirhan Sirhan was at the time of the assassination. He was directly in front of Bobby Kennedy. This is fact. In my
personal opinion he also undoubtedly caused all of the wounds to the people behind Bobby Kennedy and the surrounding area but that's another issue.
Eugene however, well, ask yourself where he was? He was directly behind Bobby Kennedy by only a few inches, he was the closest person to him at this
time in fact as he was the one holding onto Kennedy pushing him through the kitchen area.
Is that in itself proof of anything? No of course not. But looking at Bobby Kennedy's wounds there seems to be only one possible shooter here -
Eugene. You see Bobby Kennedy was not struck in the front of his Body at anytime, he was struck repeatedly behind him with 2 shots entering his back
and the final shot striking him in the back of the head behind his right ear. All of these shots were proven to have been fired traveling in an upward
direction (proven in the autopsy by Los Angeles County coroner Thomas Noguchi who also coincidentally worked on the autopsy of
showing she died from odd circumstances too) and the final shot to
Kennedy's head showed evidence of being fired from "less than one inch from the head and no more than two or three inches behind the right ear."
According to Witness Karl Ecker:
“There was a distance of at least one and one-half feet between the muzzle of Shiran’s gun and Senator Kennedy’s head. The revolver was
directly in front of my nose. After Shiran’s second shot, I pushed the hand that held the revolver down, and pushed him onto the steam table. There
is no way that the shots described in the autopsy could have come from Shiran’s gun. When I told this to the authorities, they told me that I was
wrong. But I repeat now what I told them then: Shiran never got close enough for a point-blank
Thane, after the assassination, also had his gun out at the time of the assassination but he claims he never fired any shots, something I, and many
others, do disagree with:
After Harper published his report, Joseph P. Busch, the Los Angeles District Attorney, announced he would look into the matter. Thane Eugene Cesar
was interviewed and he admitted he pulled a gun but insisted it was a Rohm .38, not a .22 (the caliber of the bullets found in Kennedy). He also
claimed that he got knocked down after the first shot and did not get the opportunity to fire his gun. The LAPD decided to believe Cesar rather than
Donald Schulman, Karl Uecker and William W. Harper and the case was closed.
Cesar admitted that he did own a .22 H & R pistol. However, he claimed that he had sold the gun before the assassination to a man named Jim Yoder.
William W. Turner tracked down Yoder in October, 1972. He still had the receipt for the H & R pistol. It was dated 6 th September, 1968. Cesar
therefore sold the pistol to Yoder three months after the assassination of Robert
Thane was a Cuban American who wasn't even working at the Hotel full time when Kennedy was assassinated, something which in itself isn't too odd as
people in Kennedy's position at the time actually didn't always have that great security. Thane however seemed to acquire the job only a short while
before the assassination and as I've shown above, he seems to be a likely candidate for an assassin taking into consideration the wounds to Kennedy
and the position of Thane. Coincidences like that can't really be ignored in my opinion.
Nor can the coincidence about our visual evidence of the attack on Kennedy, evience which seems to have been conveniently locked away:
Cesar was afraid that the assassination had been captured on film. It was. Scott Enyart, a high-school student, was taking photographs of Robert
Kennedy as he was walking from the ballroom of the Ambassador Hotel to the Colonial Room where the press conference was due to take place. Enyart was
standing slightly behind Kennedy when the shooting began and snapped as fast as he could. As Enyart was leaving the pantry, two LAPD officers accosted
him at gunpoint and seized his film. Later, he was told by Detective Dudley Varney that the photographs were needed as evidence in the Sirhan trial.
The photographs were not presented as evidence but the court ordered that all evidential materials had to be sealed for twenty years.
In 1988 Scott Enyart requested that his photographs should be returned. At first the State Archives claimed they could not find them and that they
must have been destroyed by mistake. Enyart filed a lawsuit which finally came to trial in 1996. During the trial the Los Angeles city attorney
announced that the photos had been found in its Sacramento office and would be brought to the courthouse by the courier retained by the State
Archives. The following day it was announced that the courier’s briefcase, that contained the photographs, had been stolen from the car he rented at
the airport. The photographs have never been recovered and the jury subsequently awarded Scott Enyart $450,000 in
Finally the "evidence" of a second shooter:
California prosecutors have argued that witnesses heard shots coming from only one location, but Rhodes-Hughes tells CNN that while the first two
or three shots she heard came from Sirhan's position several feet in front of her, she also heard gunshots "to my right where Robert Kennedy was."
According to the autopsy report, the coroner concluded that the senator's body and clothing were struck from behind, at right rear, by four bullets
fired at upward angles and at point-blank range. Yet witnesses said Sirhan fired somewhat downward, almost horizontally, from several feet in front of
Kennedy, and witnesses did not report the senator's back as ever being exposed to Sirhan or his gun.
In his analysis of the Pruszynski sound recording, Philip Van Praag found that five of the gunshots captured in the tape were fired opposite the
direction of Sirhan's eight shots. Van Praag also concluded that those five shots -- the third, fifth, eighth, 10th and 12th gunshots within a 13-shot
sequence -- displayed an acoustical "frequency anomaly" indicating that the alleged second gun's make and model were different from Sirhan's
Thus my belief in the very plausible second shooter.
I discussed this at length in a past thread of mine here titled: The Peculiar Death Of
edit on 30-4-2012 by Rising Against because: (no reason given)