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Topic started on 30-4-2012 @ 01:45 AM by Blackmarketeer

London 2012: Missiles may be placed at residential flats


www.bbc.co.uk
The Ministry of Defence is considering placing surface-to-air missiles on residential flats during the Olympics.

An east London estate, where 700 people live, has received leaflets saying a "Higher Velocity Missile system" could be placed on a water tower.

A spokesman said the MoD had not yet decided whether to deploy ground based air defence systems during the event.

But estate resident Brian Whelan said firing the missiles "would shower debris across the east end of London".

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reply posted on 30-4-2012 @ 01:45 AM by Blackmarketeer
This has to be a thrilling prospect: let's welcome the Olympics and here is your complimentary battalion of police and roof-top missile battery for your flat.

I don't think anyone these days will deny that this type of air defense is now a necessity. I just wonder how effective they would be against a small threat like a UAV or "quadcopter" carrying a little package right into an open air stadium?

Apparently there's also some concern that a missile firing would leave a shower of debris, which raises the spectre of a false-trigger should some joker use a small RC or UAV plane as a joke - or as Charlie Stross says in his blog post,
Olympics 2012: A Bruce Schneier Moment:
f one of those things is ever fired, either in anger or by accident, it'll shower white-hot supersonic shrapnel across the extremely crowded residential heart of a city.

Hmm. It's a good thing I'm a novelist who dabbles in technothrillers, not a terrorist. If I was a terrorist I'd be licking my lips, trying to work out how to trigger a missile launch. Using a motor-powered model aircraft, free flight design (no radio controls to jam) aimed vaguely towards the Olympic stadium, with a nice radio beacon or some sort of infra-red source (a flare, perhaps) on its tail to make it easy to track? These missiles will be the close-in option, because we know the RAF will already be flying combat air patrols over London; they won't have much time to evaluate threats or respond intelligently. So launch from the back of a panel van, like the IRA mortar attacks on places like Heathrow or 10 Downing Street. The twist in the scheme would be to aim past the missile launchers along a vector that would attract a hail of hypervelocity missile launches in the direction of, say, a DLR station at rush hour.


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reply posted on 30-4-2012 @ 02:19 AM by litterbaux
reply to post by Aim64C



I think you missed the point.

They won. The fake terrorists have won.

You can go on and on how this is safe, in reality, WTF!

Rooftop surface to air batteries!?!?!


reply posted on 30-4-2012 @ 02:28 AM by Adyta
reply to post by litterbaux



Yep, that's how it goes.

"This missile system is only temporary and is for your own good"

Cut to 9 years later when you have to drive through a military checkpoint just to go get a loaf of bread.


reply posted on 30-4-2012 @ 04:25 AM by RyanFromCan
reply to post by TKDRL



NOW THIS.....we are in complete agreement on, What in the heck has the world come to when missile batteries are employed to "protect" a sporting event. I am dying (well, losing my freedom) to know what will be the defense strategy for the next World Cup is going to be, it will be in interesting, with all those soccer(football) hooligans you know.....


reply posted on 30-4-2012 @ 04:37 AM by TKDRL
reply to post by RyanFromCan



It's funny when that happens, why I don't bother trying to box people up anymore. In some threads I bump heads with people, in other threads I am in agreement. This place is funny like that.

Stuff like this here, is another reason I am way more happy, and feel safer in the woods, surrounded by dangerous wild animals


reply posted on 30-4-2012 @ 06:51 AM by TrueBrit
reply to post by Blackmarketeer



Gawd, cannot believe I missed this bit...

I WOULD deny that this kind of deployment is required. Oh yes, I surely would. As I have stated, it is the task of one of the best funded secret services in the world , to ensure that security concerns are dealt with in such a manner as to leave all of us absolutely unconcerned about our day to day physical security. We the British people pay innordinate amounts of money to government, and allow them to butcher the working classes pocket books, and in return we expect security that we couldnt see even if we had predator vision.

We are NOT paying for a bunch of gung ho "if its weak stick rockets on top of it" merchants. I expect that from the idiots at the CIA, and the utter intellectual non entities at the pentagon, but Britain ought to expect better from its security services than silos on the roof of surrounding buildings. Frankly speaking, if there was a chance in blue hell that we were going to be attacked during the games, then the only acceptable solution is for all possible colaberators to simply dissapear until the games are done.
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