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Vaccines Have Been Based on Medical Fraud for Over a Hundred Years

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posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 01:10 AM
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This is pretty scary when you think about it. The apparent blueprint for pushing vaccines, while covering up conflicting information which shows the harm vaccines can do, and using us a guinea pigs while scientists/doctors line their pockets, started back in 1976.



The concept of vaccinating to immunize began in 1796, when British apothecary (pharmacist) Edward Jenner inserted cowpox pus under the skin of an eight year old boy. Jenner based his experiment on an unsubstantiated rumor that anyone who had experienced cowpox would be immune to smallpox. Over the next couple of years, Jenner vaccinated others with cowpox to immunize them against smallpox. Without any actual proof of efficacy and safety, Jenner impressed King George III enough with a bogus immunization guarantee that he was awarded the equivalent of today's $500,000.

Thus, Jenner was the first medical professional to administer diseased matter as medication to a healthy person and receive a substantial financial award. He was also the first to constantly denounce vaccination detractors successfully. He was protecting both his ego and large public purse.



As we see today, other medical professional were aware of the outlandish claims.



Many health professionals throughout the 19th Century knew that there had been several cases of smallpox among those with cowpox histories. Jenner's premise was flawed.


Furthermore, as we still see in todays medical field, no matter what other studies show, no matter the efficacy of the vaccine, no matter how many children still end up getting sick from the disease the vaccination was guaranteed to prevent, the vaccine will continue to be pushed on the public, and concerns ignored.



This was actually the beginning of a tradition that is carried on by today's vaccinators. Come up with a bogus solution to prevent a disease, make a bundle of cash, and shut down reasonable arguments from those who know immunization by vaccination doesn't work safely or effectively.

England's incidents of smallpox after vaccination rose steadily from five percent in the beginning to 95% by 1895. There was even a serious epidemic around 1872, one year after smallpox vaccinations were decreed mandatory in the UK. The mortality rate among smallpox victims also shot up five fold around that time.

Despite intelligent protests with obvious facts and figures disproving efficacy, and proving harm from toxic materials and viruses contained in vaccines that endanger natural immunity, the inoculation for immunization premise has been maintained.


Yet, it isn't the 1700's or 1800's anymore, so hopefully if there was evidence that a vaccine was not working, or has the efficacy claimed by the drug pushers, than doctors/scientists would reconsider pushing the vaccine on children and in schools, right?



A 2012 study led by Dr. David Witt, an infectious disease specialist at the San Rafael, California Kaiser Permanente Medical Center concluded that whooping cough occurs more among vaccinated children than children not vaccinated.


How about mumps, where as a kid in New York I too was given the vaccine and assured there was nothing else to worry about, that the vaccine would do its job.



In 2010, a mumps outbreak occurred among 1000 children in upper New Jersey and lower New York. Almost 80% of them had been vaccinated with the MMR (measles, mumps & rubella) vaccine.


How about Measles? The vaccination for measles is considered pretty standard, safe, and breakouts of measles isn't something we should be worrying about nowadays, right?



Throughout the 1980s, official agencies reported several outbreaks of measles occurring among children who had been vaccinated in various locations including an Illinois junior high and high school, a Massachusetts high school, a region in France, and a rural area near Helisinki, Finland. Both USA schools had well over 90% vaccinated against measles.

The vaccinators claim a 90% vaccination rate among any specific population guarantees herd immunity for that population. This bogus claim serves to create more revenue while blaming non-vaccinators for endangering humanity.


On top of all this, the FDA doesn't have acceptable channels for communication regarding any adverse effects one might suffer from a vaccine. Many reports apparently don't get through to the people who need to know that the vaccine is not safe, and can cause some serious adverse events. Yet, given this has been going on for over a hundred years, I doubt even if the complaints did get through to the right people, they'd be ignored, in the name of big business.

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posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 01:19 AM
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Just posted a while ago....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Whether duplicated or not, it's worth mentioning the errors endlessly until they are noticed by the majority. Medical fraud needs to be acknowledged and addressed before more damage is done.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 01:45 AM
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The question is... How does a parent avoid having his/her child vaccinated without being accused of child abuse? I have a 3 year old son, and his doctor has pushed the flu vaccine on us at every visit. Each time we tell him no, and he gets angry, asks why, and tells us we are being foolish. I brought up themerisol, and he said that he was pretty sure they stopped putting mercury in the vaccines, but I have not seen anywhere that it has been removed. I known that it is not contained in vaccines for children a year or younger, but beyond that, it apparently is still used. My son has received other standard vaccinations, and I just wonder what sort of hell would ensue if I were to have said no to those.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:05 AM
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I can't prove anything, but directly after my son had an injection to vaccinate at 15 months of age he stopped talking. He was later given an IQ test and considered mentally challenged and has ADD. Before the vaccine he talked [not a lot, but within age range], his motor skills were great [rolled over and walked even sooner than age appropriate]. Many times I have asked myself what happened and never even thought to blame the vaccine until the last 5-6 yrs., and still can't be certain of course, but a mother is always going to wonder & question these things. He's 25 yrs old now.

Always trust your instincts.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:09 AM
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Vaccine paranoids, are you glad that we don't have to worry about Polio or Small Pox? The most notable person whining about vaccines is a porn star. Have fun. Perhaps the idiot parents that decide not to vaccinate their children will do us all a favor and wipe their genes out of the pool voluntarily. Sad the kid couldn't make the choice.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:30 AM
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i suggest you urgently go to the vitamin d council website and spend a week there at least studying.

it could help reverse your child condition...

i will send you a private message of related cases helped by this.

ok?



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by Domo1
Vaccine paranoids, are you glad that we don't have to worry about Polio or Small Pox? The most notable person whining about vaccines is a porn star. Have fun. Perhaps the idiot parents that decide not to vaccinate their children will do us all a favor and wipe their genes out of the pool voluntarily. Sad the kid couldn't make the choice.


the number of people smallpox /polio is very small...
more people die from cancer...a lot more.


a report indicated vaccinated people get the disease more frequently...



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:38 AM
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why don't you do your research.
go to mercola.com or naturalnews.com.

the doctors gets £3000 if he gets 80% vaccinated.

he don't care if your child gets injured or not.

he wants his £3000.

you would do the same if you were in his position.

£3000.


££££££££££££££££££££££

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

most doctors are pimps for drug companies anyway.

my dad went to the doctor and the doctor gave him 10 prescriptions,including multiple statins,high blood pressure,etc...with also sort of side effects.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:39 AM
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Originally posted by MysticPearl
Furthermore, as we still see in todays medical field, no matter what other studies show, no matter the efficacy of the vaccine, no matter how many children still end up getting sick from the disease the vaccination was guaranteed to prevent, the vaccine will continue to be pushed on the public, and concerns ignored.


That's because those in power would be exposed very quickly if people were not vaccinated at all. Vaccines are to protect the elite by keeping people spiritually dumbed down.


"We were told that there was a great smallpox epidemic coming to the land and all the children must be vaccinated. My grandfather used to say that the white man’s vaccination makes you blind and if you are to look after the cattle you must not go to the trading store to get your vaccination. Inspectors used to come and check each child for signs of vaccination. Our grandmother used to give us great pain in order to save our spiritual eyes. Grains of maize would be heated up and pushed against the skin of the child, and so when the schools inspectors came he saw the blisters and assumed the child had been vaccinated…and I noticed that school children in mission schools who had been vaccinated for smallpox or measles could not see spiritual entities at all. A flying saucer would fly through the sky at great speed and be seen by many men & women but the children who had been vaccinated would see nothing and I noticed this hundreds of times."—Credo Mutwa


www.whale.to...


Originally posted by notquiteright
The question is... How does a parent avoid having his/her child vaccinated without being accused of child abuse? I have a 3 year old son, and his doctor has pushed the flu vaccine on us at every visit.


Best to try and keep your child away from drug pushers.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by Domo1
Vaccine paranoids, are you glad that we don't have to worry about Polio or Small Pox?


Are you glad you don't have to worry about seeing spiritual entities or UFOs?



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by MysticPearl
Many health professionals throughout the 19th Century knew that there had been several cases of smallpox among those with cowpox histories. Jenner's premise was flawed.


Bogus argument.
Smallpox is not cowpox. They are similar, related.
There is no expectation, nor claim, that any vaccination of one would ever be 100 percent effective against the other. The very fact that there would be *any effect at all* is the striking argument that the vaccine worked.
Otherwise the article would be trying to argue there was no effect, but it cant even bring itself to say that.

This continues to be the case today, and is still a major bogus argument used by the anti-vaccination crowd - that if the vaccine doesnt work 100 percent of the time, then it doesnt work at all.




Originally posted by MysticPearl
...no matter how many children still end up getting sick from the disease the vaccination was guaranteed to prevent...


As in the line above.
The only people claiming the bogus strawman argument of "guaranteed" are the anti-vaccine people.



Originally posted by MysticPearl
A 2012 study led by Dr. David Witt, an infectious disease specialist at the San Rafael, California Kaiser Permanente Medical Center concluded that whooping cough occurs more among vaccinated children than children not vaccinated.


Another bogus argument, discussed a lot here on ATS such as in this thread shows that the anti-vaccine crowd are either deliberatly LYING when it comes to citing the Witt paper, or are so severly incompetent that they misunderstand what it actually says.

Either way, the Witt report (and even Witt himself) do not provide backing for the anti-vacciners.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by Domo1
Vaccine paranoids, are you glad that we don't have to worry about Polio or Small Pox? The most notable person whining about vaccines is a porn star. Have fun. Perhaps the idiot parents that decide not to vaccinate their children will do us all a favor and wipe their genes out of the pool voluntarily. Sad the kid couldn't make the choice.


Might want to dig a little deeper.. there were lots of other factors that played into the eradication of polio and small pox. In fact, polio was nearly non-existent, statistically speaking, when they started administering vaccinations against it. Yet, those who write the history books made sure it (the vaccine) took the credit.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by bacci0909
In fact, polio was nearly non-existent, statistically speaking, when they started administering vaccinations against it.



A doubtful claim thats easy enough to double check.
Both Salk and Sabin vaccines invented in the early 1950's, trials mid 1950's and in use very shortly thereafter.

Limiting myself to the US, where the vaccine was first used and used with large proportions of the population (thus testing your idea to the max), wiki says...


In 1952 and 1953, the U.S. experienced an outbreak of 58,000 and 35,000 polio cases, respectively, up from a typical number of some 20,000 a year.



In the U.S, following a mass immunization campaign promoted by the March of Dimes, the annual number of polio cases fell from 35,000 in 1953 to 5,600 by 1957.
By 1961 only 161 cases were recorded in the United States.


So on the face of it, your claim is (like all anti-vaccine arguments) a complete lie, falsehood, fabrication, misrepresentation.

Edit - and should you choose to reply, dont just reply with "cant trust wikipedia".
Put some effort into your reply and produce some numbers from somewhere else. Numbers that you wish to stand by.

edit on 30-4-2012 by alfa1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 07:50 AM
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notquiteright,

The doctor makes easy money by vaccinating your child. Bring this with you to the doctor, the independent and internationally renowned Cochrane Collaboration warned that there are no studies showing that the flu vaccines are safe or effective www.medicalnewstoday.com...

It is only the independent studies like these that can be trusted, any studies from Big Pharma will just essentially be marketing; not real science.

It is your job to protect your child from the corrupt system, do not let anyone take that right away from you.



Originally posted by notquiteright
reply to post by MysticPearl
 


The question is... How does a parent avoid having his/her child vaccinated without being accused of child abuse? I have a 3 year old son, and his doctor has pushed the flu vaccine on us at every visit. Each time we tell him no, and he gets angry, asks why, and tells us we are being foolish. I brought up themerisol, and he said that he was pretty sure they stopped putting mercury in the vaccines, but I have not seen anywhere that it has been removed. I known that it is not contained in vaccines for children a year or younger, but beyond that, it apparently is still used. My son has received other standard vaccinations, and I just wonder what sort of hell would ensue if I were to have said no to those.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 07:57 AM
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'Nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine,'
-Jonas Salk, inventor of the IPV, testifying before a Senate subcommittee

www.informedchoice.info...

You say that those who don't get vaccinated will wipe themselves out of the gene-pool, this is a flawed argument as if humans couldn't live without vaccines we would have already been wiped out. Maybe you think vaccines have been around for 1000's of years, otherwise your argument is just failed logic.


Originally posted by Domo1
Vaccine paranoids, are you glad that we don't have to worry about Polio or Small Pox? The most notable person whining about vaccines is a porn star. Have fun. Perhaps the idiot parents that decide not to vaccinate their children will do us all a favor and wipe their genes out of the pool voluntarily. Sad the kid couldn't make the choice.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 07:59 AM
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Excellent thread MysticPearl, I've added a S&F. More and more people are snapping out of their trance.

There are plenty of shills around too, so we shouldn't take them too seriously, they're just doing what they're being paid to do
edit on 30-4-2012 by Rubinstein because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Rubinstein
reply to post by MysticPearl
 


Excellent thread MysticPearl, I've added a S&F. More and more people are snapping out of their trance.

There are plenty of shills around too, so we shouldn't take them too seriously, they're just doing what they're being paid to do
edit on 30-4-2012 by Rubinstein because: (no reason given)



these foot soldier shills probably get a free pen and calander.

sad pathetic little ****.

it is unlikely they get to bang the executives/directors daughters.


doctors are little then over paid vending machines and shove dangerous drugs at you.

they kill more people by prescription drugs than then the street drug pushers and they get huge payouts by a corrupt system.

....if they vaccinate more than 90 per cent of those deemed at risk of the disease in their area, they will get 50 per cent more per jab - £7.88 per person.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...


Every swine flu patient GPs inoculate will need two doses of the vaccine. With the average GP having 1,800 patients, that means a salary boost of just over £27,000.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...


www.dailymail.co.uk...

£27,000 swine flu bonus for GPs (who already earn £107,000)

www.dailymail.co.uk...

27000 is a lot of money.

people get killed for £5 or less.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:16 PM
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My wife worked in medical front office. Several days of the week the different drug reps would bring in breakfast or lunch for the dr and the staff. They would take them out for dinner a few times a month. I can spot every time I go to the doctor which is only is maybe once a year. They always have something besides drug samples for the staff. She hasn't worked there for a few years and we still of the pens...



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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The Polio vaccine worked, debunk that. Talk to an old person.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by earthdude
The Polio vaccine worked, debunk that. Talk to an old person.


You've been lied to earthdude, Polio was just renamed
Polio Research

The History of the Polio Vaccine. -

The polio vaccine was first launched in 1955. By 1958 it was proved not to work - so the disease was renamed in order to make the vaccine seem a success.

"Nearly all cases of the disease called 'polio' during the polio epidemics have since been renamed - what was called 'non-paralytic polio' is now commonly called viral meningitis, and what was called 'paralytic polio' is now mostly called 'Acute Fl.accid Paralysis" and sometimes called MND = 'Motor Neurone Disease' - so in this section we are using 'polio' in the sense of the old definition of paralytic polio used in the polio epidemics in the US -and against which the polio vaccine was invented."

How Salk's Vaccine failed to prevent polio - includes figures from 1956-58.
www.sparks-of-light.org...

Despite the vaccine - more polio - in 1958
www.sparks-of-light.org...

Bernice Eddy - the government safety scientist - tests Salk's vaccine and finds it seemingly causes cancer - in 1954-5 and again in 1958-9 - also on the Tuskagee medical experiment scandal
www.sparks-of-light.org...

'Nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine,'
-Jonas Salk, inventor of the IPV, testifying before a Senate subcommittee
www.informedchoice.info...



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