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Originally posted by Six Sigma
Truthers, for some reason, believe that thermal expansion is a new phenomenon. Critical thinkers, I would assume, use the overpass as an example as to how thermal expansion works with steel.
In an open-air office fire such as that at WTC (called a "dirty burn") kerosene or any hydrocarbon will burn at around 500-700degrees Fahrenheit. The FEMA report on 911 said that the jet fuel burned off after a few minutes and the fires from the office furniture and carpets were about 560 degrees. The special structural steel of the WTC has over 98% of its strength at those temperatures, and the WTC was built to hold 5 times its load.
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
I'm still waiting for my wood stove and barbecue grill outside to turn to dust and melt under the intense heat.
Originally posted by hooper
Originally posted by Danbones
well at least you spelled crap correctly hooper
unlike the wtc nothing to see here move along folks move along
Hopper doesn't cut steel for a living, he's a expertedit on 30-4-2012 by Danbones because: (no reason given)
How do you know what I do for a living?
I'm still waiting for my wood stove and barbecue grill outside to turn to dust and melt under the intense heat. That steel isn't even close to the quality used for those towers, yet my grill and stove are doing great after many many years of constant use.
So, your grill is 100's of stories tall, was hit by a jet going aprox 550 MPH, was built in the mid 70's, and was doused with tons of jet fuel "A"? You are a true innovator, a real idea man aren't you?
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
and I've set off 1/4 stick of dynomite inside it before.
Quarter Stick is a generic term used to describe a large firecracker that falls within a certain range of dimensions. Typically, a Quarter Stick consists of a thick walled cardboard tube containing approximately .97 oz. of pyrotechnic flash powder, with a short length of Visco fuse protruding from the side or end of the device. No true standard for dimensions and construction exists, as these devices are products of bootleg manufacturers.
The term "Quarter Stick" is based on attempts to compare the performance of large firecrackers to Dynamite. However, these notions are false, and unlike what is suggested by the name, a Quarter Stick firecracker does not have the same explosive performance as a quarter stick of Dynamite, and does not contain Nitroglycerin like dynamite does.
In the United States, Quarter Sticks and similar large firecrackers are illegal to manufacture or possess without a BATFE High Explosives Manufacturing License.
They are sometimes colloquially known as, M-1000 or "block busters".
The point is, I can believe that a building might collapse after a hit by a jumbojet and potentialyy weakened steel, but for it to fall straight down and to destroy the lower part of the structure that was completely intact is just impossible.
while i don't know what you do for living, i have good indication of what you don't:
none of the people i have worked with in demolition cutting steel agree with you
not to mention you would would have said so in the myriad posts that you have made..
you have sited much less firsthand reasons for your opinions instead.
I am sure you earn your keep somehow