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posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 12:57 PM
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wth is the big deal about ron paul? he is too conservative for me and stands for nothing I value. Ok maybe he is more honest in what he says and maybe he is not a mason, but so what? what happened to a real candidate from the left...someone like dennis kucinich?

Or some positive exposure for the socialist party or the green party?

I really think the republicans are so desperate to get any conservative in office, they are going to go for another reagan. "i want the smallest possible government because I don't trust it and I want everything private".

The only thing I agree with paul and it is BIG is that he wants america to stop playing the global police. But his extreme privatisation scheme is a huge turnoff and will always outweigh the few positives. Everyone picks on the social welfare system because the upper-middle and wealthy class are sick of paying taxes BUT they don't comprehend how much is wasted with other nonsense.

America has always been a right wing nation and the only thing I will ever agree with these folks is the right to bear arms.




posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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He's pro-Constitution and that's pretty much all you need to know.

Basically that's my view and that's why I support him. Either you have a guy like this in office to help us get back to our roots (as a successful independent and free nation) or we go further down the rabbit hole of tyranny.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by fourthmeal
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


He's pro-Constitution and that's pretty much all you need to know.

Basically that's my view and that's why I support him. Either you have a guy like this in office to help us get back to our roots (as a successful independent and free nation) or we go further down the rabbit hole of tyranny.


Well that is your opinion and I respect it, but what makes you think the other republicans would tolerate his extreme right wing views if he gets elected? He is running as a republican candidate, not for the libertarian or constitutional party.

America is not doomed anymore than any other country on this planet. The nwo has taken care of everything through masonry. people need to get a clue................



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 01:53 PM
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Here's the thing. He's not extreme right-wing.

It really, really isn't about right and left here. We have a guy that cannot be bought, for the first time in a long, long time. The NWO only have power if we give them power, and the more they expose themselves the more worthless and useless they become. They are not an insurmountable force anymore.

Consider, the biggest thing to RP is to destroy the FED and the IRS, both illegal in the eyes of the Constitution. In my opinion there is nothing right-wing about that, just right (as in correct.)

His views of precious metals to back the dollar just goes back to the time before central banks ruled us. The fiat money printing scheme has no good ending, only tyranny. Our FF knew this, and RP knows it. Again, not right wing at all, just right.

His views on abortion, gay marriage, all that... really pales in comparison when you consider this stuff doesn't matter if we're all debt slaves to a massive machine. Putting these things in the hands of the State is sensible. If you don't like what that State says, MOVE!

The Republican view is that you are born with certain freedoms and liberties, and that under no circumstance can anybody vote those away. That's the core. He's getting back to the core. How in the world is that Right-wing? It seems central to me. Central to the core being of every human born.




Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by fourthmeal
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


He's pro-Constitution and that's pretty much all you need to know.

Basically that's my view and that's why I support him. Either you have a guy like this in office to help us get back to our roots (as a successful independent and free nation) or we go further down the rabbit hole of tyranny.


Well that is your opinion and I respect it, but what makes you think the other republicans would tolerate his extreme right wing views if he gets elected? He is running as a republican candidate, not for the libertarian or constitutional party.

America is not doomed anymore than any other country on this planet. The nwo has taken care of everything through masonry. people need to get a clue................



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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" In the recent weeks things have been picking up for the Paul campaign."

More like the "illusion" things are picking up.. it's a fake horse-race / controlled opposition to keep RP's mind-set busy wasting time... rather than taking action that might lead to real change.

People think if there's someone on TV articulating "their" rage.. surely, something will be done about it... meanwhile in reality, not a damn thing ever changes.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:11 PM
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I could be wrong but didn't he say he wants to audit the FED rather than fold it into the treasury? The same people who control the FED also control the ECB in europe and many other private central banks. Try the rothschild family.

The conspiracy is not that we have a fiat monetary system(not backed by precious metals) but that it is a quasi-government masonic institution. It is private and independent from government control. It should be disbaned with usa treasury notes taking the place of federal reserve notes.

Ron Paul may have good intentions, but I am not sure he understands the full picture. As for state rights, they should be inferior to federal rights. The federal government leads the union/federation(whatever you wish to call it).

I think the guy is a trojan horse and yes he is right wing. More individualism and less collectivism!



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:23 PM
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Obama is the big laugh. He reminds of the song bring in the clowns. If he wasn't such a dangerous criminal and liar we could all have a big laugh. The only person compared to him that was dragged out from under a rock to put in the White House is Jimmy Carter. The peanut farmer with a red neck brother and Billy Beer. I honestly can not believe there is anyone out there is actually buying into any of their Circus.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:23 PM
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Ron Paul! Ron Paul! Ron Paul! Ron Paul! Ron Paul! Ron Paul! Ron Paul! Ron Paul!


*Starting the chant*

Now let's see some action, go for it man! I know he'll never back down!

rEVOLution 2012!



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by fourthmeal
 
More individualism and less collectivism!


Wait.. is that a joke, or are you mocking him in some way? Or are you saying that's how it should be? Cause Dr. Paul talks about that constantly. So much, in fact, that if you really are using that concept in condemnation of his views, then there's nothing more I can say. I'm done trying to explain things to people who try to detract Ron Paul, yet apparently know nothing about him. Maybe you were mocking him though, which would make sense, because he says that so much, it's almost like his catchphrase and his platform for all of his views.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
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I could be wrong but didn't he say he wants to audit the FED rather than fold it into the treasury?


Yes, ultimately you are wrong. He's authored bills to audit, because it's something instead of nothing, but ultimately he wants to end it. Please refer to a popular book of his, it's called..

END THE FED by Ron Paul



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
America has always been a right wing nation and the only thing I will ever agree with these folks is the right to bear arms.


I'm from the UK where we have been completely disarmed, you either have to be a farmer or a gangster to own a gun and as a consequence the nation is completely submissive to it's ruling class; the general public has very little power to revolt and keep the government in check.

Your nations constitutional 2nd amendment right of the people to keep and bear arms is in fact an equaliser and a way to keep your government in check, when they really begin to take the piss. You should be extremely careful what you wish for, your decision could enslave future generations indefinitely. (Apologies if you meant you agree with the right, but thought I should point this out in case).

I've been watching the election run up from the UK and I think it's disgusting the type of coverage the media is giving Ron Paul is so obviously biased and just unfair it should make anyone question their motives for that type of behaviour.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:39 PM
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You are incorrect about auditing, feel free sometime to read his book End the Fed, as one of my posters above me mentioned.

He's not a Mason so...




Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by fourthmeal
 


I could be wrong but didn't he say he wants to audit the FED rather than fold it into the treasury? The same people who control the FED also control the ECB in europe and many other private central banks. Try the rothschild family.

The conspiracy is not that we have a fiat monetary system(not backed by precious metals) but that it is a quasi-government masonic institution. It is private and independent from government control. It should be disbaned with usa treasury notes taking the place of federal reserve notes.

Ron Paul may have good intentions, but I am not sure he understands the full picture. As for state rights, they should be inferior to federal rights. The federal government leads the union/federation(whatever you wish to call it).

I think the guy is a trojan horse and yes he is right wing. More individualism and less collectivism!



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by bacci0909

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by fourthmeal
 
More individualism and less collectivism!


Wait.. is that a joke, or are you mocking him in some way? Or are you saying that's how it should be? Cause Dr. Paul talks about that constantly. So much, in fact, that if you really are using that concept in condemnation of his views, then there's nothing more I can say. I'm done trying to explain things to people who try to detract Ron Paul, yet apparently know nothing about him. Maybe you were mocking him though, which would make sense, because he says that so much, it's almost like his catchphrase and his platform for all of his views.


Not mocking at all! I only say what I see/read. Further I am not someone who dictates what should or should not be. I am only expressing my opinions of which I am entitled to by the first amendment. It should be NO SECRET that right wingers want more individualism and less collectivism. Are you new to politics?



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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Ugie...don't be so dishonest with yourself...that poll is from the beginning of April...




its still april, guy



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by lioninthenorth

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
America has always been a right wing nation and the only thing I will ever agree with these folks is the right to bear arms.


I'm from the UK where we have been completely disarmed, you either have to be a farmer or a gangster to own a gun and as a consequence the nation is completely submissive to it's ruling class; the general public has very little power to revolt and keep the government in check.

Your nations constitutional 2nd amendment right of the people to keep and bear arms is in fact an equaliser and a way to keep your government in check, when they really begin to take the piss. You should be extremely careful what you wish for, your decision could enslave future generations indefinitely. (Apologies if you meant you agree with the right, but thought I should point this out in case).

I've been watching the election run up from the UK and I think it's disgusting the type of coverage the media is giving Ron Paul is so obviously biased and just unfair it should make anyone question their motives for that type of behaviour.


Yes I am firm believer in the second amendment because no one should fully trust government. Secondely guns make for a great hobby and they protect your property from intruders. Why in the world would I make fun of that?

The uk does not have socialism as no country other than perhaps north korea still has it in its true form and that is why the nwo keeps scoffing malignantly at it. Of course it is an extreme form of socialism and in no way a mixed economy. People speak about politics without really knowing what they talk about.

What the uk has is a *helpless peeping tom* state. How many cameras in london? A few thousand or a few million?



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:51 PM
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Please do not confuse Neo-conservatism with being Republican.

In the end if RP was a democrat I'd still vote for him. However by the very nature of believing in liberties and rights that you are born with and that should be kept regardless of how "We the People" vote, I would say that is actually not the will of the Democratic system.

A balance of the two is ideal, which is why I would support a Kucinich/Paul ticket or vice-verse.

Basically I really don't care what "wing" you are for, I just want someone who will cease the American rights and liberties give-away spree that is going on right now from all the sell-outs.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by lioninthenorth

I've been watching the election run up from the UK and I think it's disgusting the type of coverage the media is giving Ron Paul is so obviously biased and just unfair it should make anyone question their motives for that type of behaviour.


Are you not disgusted by the lack of coverage given to the libertarian party, constitutional party, green party, socialist party, communist party?

I bet if we ask 100 random people in nyc, los angeles, detroit, chicago, dallas, houston,.........maybe 5-10 folks would have EVER heard of them. Actually there are at least 50 registered parties in america, but thanks to astroturfing attempts sponsored by the big parties and unusually high financial requirements to have ballots in each state, the smaller parties are perpetually screwed.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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Fact- Majority of our Govt. Officials are in loyalty debt to some Corp. that got them where they are today. Their needs usually come first.

Fact- Obama is one of those people.

Fact- Romney is one of those people.

Fact- Paul cant be bought.

Do the math.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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Ron Paul is the resurrected zombie of political righteousness, long lain dormant by the cold lead of corporate politics and corruption in the White House.
He cannot be bought.
He is here to feast on the brains of the unjust.

Zom Paul 2012


(S+F, excellent post my man.)
edit on 30-4-2012 by Mach5 because: [Khan Paul must have more reasons to be awesome]



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by Common Good
Fact- Majority of our Govt. Officials are in loyalty debt to some Corp. that got them where they are today. Their needs usually come first.

Fact- Obama is one of those people.

Fact- Romney is one of those people.

Fact- Paul cant be bought.

Do the math.


Fact- All three are the same!


Or they would not be alive today........









 
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