7 billion people live on our planet, sustained mainly buy mass industrialized agriculture, which without
oil will rapidly gind to a halt. It is at this stage that the superpowers of the world will attempt
to exert influence, maybe togeather or more likely individually to get things going again. which ever
party is most successful at mobilizing and controlling vast areas will have quickly conquered their new empires.
empiral americal, china and russa.

It's difficult to compare the 1930's to the global meltdown in 2012/2013 many are expecting because the situations are completely different. In the 1900's, there were terrible droughts adding to the political upheavel and financial crashes. The people of those times had it tough, they had less electronics and creature comforts to assist them and worked hard for what they got. Also, the population of the US in 1930 was approximately 125,578,730. It is now over 311,800,000. Let that soak in for a minute, the population of 1933 PLUS 186,221,237 MORE people , more than double.

If you think it was tough to feed the poor and hungry back then, it will be worse in the future. With low food stores, natural resources diminished because of pollution (Fukushima, oil spills and all the other crap), over fished/farmed/wasted, we just have no idea. And trying to answer the OP's original question......that's the answer we ALL want to know. What and how long to prepare for. Life would be so much simpler if we only knew. Unfortunately, I don't think the world has experienced what most assuredly will be coming to the mass populations and we just don't know. Everything is speculation at this point and that is why we prepare the best we can with stocks of goods, preparing our minds and bodies to adjust and weather the coming changes however we can.

OK so I have been out all day today handing out posters and cards in two towns Nelson and Motueka, am going to a third town tomorrow Takaka. Currently we have 30 odd petitions on the streets from a lot of different communities in the region. If you had a look at Aoteroa is not for sale you would see a massive protest, in the thousands at least. I am known to a number of communities and most of these people don’t even own a computer, anyway all of these people have all these different idea’s ie it’s going to be up to us country folks to look after the city folks and they have been saying that for years I am encouraging these folk to put pen to paper and write but it’s slow. so you heard it here first Teachers will simply need to be re trained as we will have hundreds of people to educate. The country folk are preparing and believe me we have hundreds of groups and associations that represent the people far better than any government. At the moment the public are still media bound, more and more people are being woken up eventually a community will find someone who can type by the way i’m just a two fingered bloke. I have asked a number of people here if they knew anything about Iceland I found one out of 50. I’m hoping that if enough people got behind this march we can slowly push further into rectifying faults with the system of government. as a slow movement we can slowly adjust.

Free Kiwi, Free Men and women living under common law free of the law society's act’s

The hope is also that us fellow human beings can coexists and if you are having an argument with anyone ask your self what are the consequences? because at the end of the day all we need to argue about is food. If you know how to grow food grow some and if you think you need to prepare for a food shortage buy seed. That’s what we used before we had metallic things and now is pretty bits of paper. If we run out of petrol we had better dam well hope the country folk know how to breed horses, at least the local engineers will be kept busy converting cars to carts I could go on but have a look at Self Reliance Golden Bay If you have seed you will be able to teach to others what you know and how to live but be prepared to listen to others

this is about we not you / there is no I in team, 300,thousand Icelanders did it by getting together, why can't we do it? we need to get a couple of pet rabbits we all need to have a food source so that we can trade, if you dont have a source you will need to work for you food and had better learn how to shoe a horse because we have a lot of food that needs to be moved around and gotten into town. the new currencys that are being formed are based on an apple, an oninun pear etc. food is worth! gold may not be, besides we are actually running out of silver, so why don't you buy silver, I'm sorry but where we come from Food is number 1 and our land is worth more than gold

Heres are the best things you can envest in, seed and anything relating to the growing of food a horse, pet pig, rabbits or a few I'm sure you can come up with your own and have a go at not getting stuff from the supermarket a milking cow or two would be handy, do you know any one who can make butter? do you have a local bakery? prehaps we should be working together so that we can slowley make things right can somone start a new topic Aoteroa is not for sale, an inspirational free kiwi look on politics

I appreciate your reply.

I suspected that that might be what he was trying to get at... but just thought I'd confirm.

Essentially, I see the same thing - a possible re-issuance of some new form of currency/system being put out - more likely something global.

I do see the same weaknesses in any such schemes that are used - if they get used. So, I don't think that any such re-issuance would be a cure.

I'm also of the opinion that those who hold the financial systems accountable for the debts already incurred by continents are quite powerful, and would likely not want to see prosperity, short of some sort of consequence of this situation. Lord knows what that will entail.

Essentially, I believe that people are going to be made to pay some form of price for all this.

Not that I approve or that there isn't enough of a price being paid for other TPTB issues. eg: Fukushima... Just that that is what I believe is likely to happen.