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Originally posted by Realtruth
Originally posted by randyvs
I'm certain that we can expect the collapse to always be coming. It's always coming and never arrives.
Exactly.
The collapse has already happened for many people, they have lost everything.
If people think there is going to be one big chaotic mess of a collapse, think again it's not going to happen and here is why.
As long as the civilized world has sports, alcohol, MSM, banks that make money from thin air and dancing with the stars, the majority of the people will never question a thing. Think I am joking? Just start talking about how things are going to collapse at a gathering and see how many people actually give a squat.
Only a select few choose to empower themselves and truly live off of the grid, but most people have no idea, nor would they want to leave the comforts they have come to know.
This massive collapse will never happen, only isolated pockets that TPTB will quickly extinguish with propaganda and empty promises.
Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
Have people accounted to what will happen to nuclear power plants in light of global economic collapse? Especially Fukushima, given that TEPCO is already near bankrupt and needs money to keep the plant stable?
If nuclear plants blow because people don't tend to them or can't get resources to them, it doesn't matter what your survival strategy is; the world will die.
Originally posted by 00nunya00
reply to post by Shadowalker
I've seen it, good stuff! But it only goes about a year out-----doesn't really talk about how quickly "society" gets back on its feet and assumes mass unavoidable deaths-----our people will be tearing down the system looking for food and water, not hiding in their houses and dying in their beds. How do you expect our government to react----isn't it kind of guaranteed NWO takeovers will happen? They won't let our society die that easily when there are still so many profits to be made on us-----do they round us up and cut off our country-living access in order to keep the collective together and controlled?
Originally posted by MindFever
Originally posted by Gwampo
Originally posted by 00nunya00
reply to post by Master_007
Well, you can drop by with your gun and be greeted by 10 shotguns in your face, LOL. A country boy can survive.
your shotguns won't count for anything against my suppressed sniper rifle
not that I have any negative intentionsedit on 30-4-2012 by Gwampo because: (no reason given)
Unless you know to make ammunition your sniper rifle will be useless within a few decades. Gun powder deteriorates rather rapidly. I'd go for a cross bow.
Originally posted by SrWingCommander
Interesting thread. I don't have time to contribute a bunch, but a couple of thoughts.
If there is a "financial collapse" (which in and of itself could take several forms with slightly different effects and consequences) figure the following.
1. Prices, unemployment, commidates prices (including fuel and food) all skyrocket.
2. The government closes or restricts the banks and possibly purchasing. Runs on both banks and food occur.
3. Austerity measures limit government services, including utilities. There will be power and water available (possibly even at no charge, just to prevent total anarchy, but only in limited amounts and at limited times).
4. The welfare checks stop (or the amounts provided won't cover anything) so the inner cities and low socio economic areas implode. Government likely WON"T step in, they will essentially let the problems "eliminate" themselves, and will only prevent movement out of the poor areas into the middle and upper class areas, at least at first.
5. The suburbs and middle class will likely fair ok, for awhile, but some of them may collapse into anarchy too. this is when the real martial law starts.
6. After about 30-60 days of anarchy, the debts, at least national and government and large banks will be reset to zero and the global currency will step in, and likely with it some form of global governance. Likely this leads to everyones NWO.......BUT....you may have eliminated debts, and substantially reduced the welfare class, which has become an economic drain instead of a contributer. ( I am not advocating this, but I could certainly see it happening). Of course the upper middle class then becomes the new "working" class....which sets up all sorts of interesting possibilites.
Could pan out several other ways too. For example. My personal thought is while the US as a whole is doing bad, some states are doing farily well. Oklahoma and Texas have oil, natural gass, wheat, corn, cattle industry....that's food and fuel, economies based on NEEDED supplies. The economy in these places is doing fairly well. Texas especially has it's own electrical grid. States like these might secede and try to go on their own, or as confederations, maybe start printing their own money and selling their products out right. Could get REAL interesting.....edit on 30-4-2012 by SrWingCommander because: clarification.
Originally posted by 00nunya00
Originally posted by SrWingCommander
Interesting thread. I don't have time to contribute a bunch, but a couple of thoughts.
If there is a "financial collapse" (which in and of itself could take several forms with slightly different effects and consequences) figure the following.
1. Prices, unemployment, commidates prices (including fuel and food) all skyrocket.
2. The government closes or restricts the banks and possibly purchasing. Runs on both banks and food occur.
3. Austerity measures limit government services, including utilities. There will be power and water available (possibly even at no charge, just to prevent total anarchy, but only in limited amounts and at limited times).
4. The welfare checks stop (or the amounts provided won't cover anything) so the inner cities and low socio economic areas implode. Government likely WON"T step in, they will essentially let the problems "eliminate" themselves, and will only prevent movement out of the poor areas into the middle and upper class areas, at least at first.
5. The suburbs and middle class will likely fair ok, for awhile, but some of them may collapse into anarchy too. this is when the real martial law starts.
6. After about 30-60 days of anarchy, the debts, at least national and government and large banks will be reset to zero and the global currency will step in, and likely with it some form of global governance. Likely this leads to everyones NWO.......BUT....you may have eliminated debts, and substantially reduced the welfare class, which has become an economic drain instead of a contributer. ( I am not advocating this, but I could certainly see it happening). Of course the upper middle class then becomes the new "working" class....which sets up all sorts of interesting possibilites.
Could pan out several other ways too. For example. My personal thought is while the US as a whole is doing bad, some states are doing farily well. Oklahoma and Texas have oil, natural gass, wheat, corn, cattle industry....that's food and fuel, economies based on NEEDED supplies. The economy in these places is doing fairly well. Texas especially has it's own electrical grid. States like these might secede and try to go on their own, or as confederations, maybe start printing their own money and selling their products out right. Could get REAL interesting.....edit on 30-4-2012 by SrWingCommander because: clarification.
^^^THIS, all of it.
Totally agree, and thank you for your timeline guess, and specific breakdown of events, that's precisely the input I'm looking for!
I agree about the food and electric being free, but never enough. That's where the control really is for the masses---food and power (water, of course, as well). Control the food, power and currency of a people and they are complete slaves, with no way out. Once it's global, it's over----no going back without tearing the entire world down and shedding blood in waves.