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Originally posted by CriticalMess
That's pretty interesting. Especially since in my country and in the adjacent Belgium and Germany the same thing is happening: a criminalisation through media and politics of biker clubs. Over here it are the Hell's Angels and the Satudarah Maluku clubs.
Curious to read that the minds of 2 countries, literally half way around the world, are alike. One would would almost believe there was a supranational agenda.
Originally posted by SprocketUK
Good post OP.
I think its all already been said in this thread, but bears repeating. They come after us, you can be damn sure they'll be coming after you.
Anything that targets a specific group based upon their appearance, mode of transport or affiliations is just a chip off the old Nazi block and shouldn't be tolerated.
Anyway, the clubs will survive, even if they have to go underground to some degree for a while.
Originally posted by LexiconV
reply to post by Germanicus
The old lady's shot up apartment episode
Two arrested so far
Mate I live in a suburb that is surrounded by these escalating Gang events of the past 4 months. Its been going on for years and finally the cops are getting serious about doing something. The local community here are demanding that something be done about the violence.
For you to say its a media beat up tells me you simply have no idea regarding the reality of the Gang situation here in Sydney. Lucky you if its not your reality, that's something you can be thankful for at least.
Originally posted by Germanicus
reply to post by spoonbender
I agree. The massacre was just in-house stuff.
There is an awesome clip of a Bikie brawl on liveleak at a boxing match. Its brutal. And goes for ages. One of the guys defected to anothergang. They dont like that. If you are initiated,it should be for life as far as they are concerned.
Here is the brawl
www.liveleak.com...edit on 29-4-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)
There is a guy shooting a gun. He isnt shooting anyone,but trying to get the guys to stop. They dontedit on 29-4-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)
The two cops that come in have got some guts thats for sure.edit on 29-4-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)
I agree. The massacre was just in-house stuff. There is an awesome clip of a Bikie brawl on liveleak at a boxing match. Its brutal. And goes for ages. One of the guys defected to anothergang. They dont like that. If you are initiated,it should be for life as far as they are concerned.
IT BEGAN in the winter of 2008 with tit-for-tat violence between the Hells Angels and Comanchero motorcycle clubs, a series of incidents so serious that by early 2009 it had created, in the words of the Crown prosecutor Natalie Adams, a ''perfect storm'' that culminated in a brawl at Sydney Airport and the death of Anthony Zervas. Read more: www.smh.com.au...
Originally posted by LexiconV
They are a pack of opportunistic criminals fighting with a sense of ownership/territorial rights over suburbs where decent people are trying to work and live. They are a cancer within society whose revenge attacks have metastasised out of control.
Most of the conflict here in Sydney is due to conflicting families from middle eastern background.
The fact is... if you've done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear by this piece of legislation.
It's a kick in the teeth to the 110,000 service personnel who have lost their lives defending simple freedoms such as gathering and associating," he said. "It's very embarrassing to sit there and watch politicians talk about freedom and respect and the memory of our fallen soldiers and for them to be involved in radical legislation like this."
The VMCWA, which has about 25 members, is a social group for former members of the Australian Defence Force. "We do a lot more than just ride bikes - we're active in the community, do community service work and fundraising events," said Mr Buchanan, who has served in the Royal Australian Navy and as a reservist.
Originally posted by Star128
Gangs are for those who lack the balls to stand alone and/or are in a situation where they require an ad hoc army.
It doesn't take much time to research gangs, esp bike gangs. Clubs & gangs, not too different. They expect deference, thrive on intimidation, and have their roots in running meth & white slavery. Basically oafish bums who want to scare people.
Not a savory tradition.
Originally posted by proob4
I am just wondering will this affect groups like the Masons, Shiners, K.O.C. Or what about boy scouts, Girl Scouts, Brownie.s, ect. They all wear either hats, Jewrey or clothing that signafies a brotherhood or group affiliation.
Bikies are accusing police of an expensive media stunt, after only two men were arrested in widespread raids across Sydney's west. Strike Force Kinnarra was timed to coincide with a ban on bikie colours in Kings Cross - which came into effect on Friday morning. Police are warning bikies to expect more arrests.
20 years from now we'll ask: why did we let this happen? i feel so sad