26yo NYC MoMa Chef Shot DEAD for iPhone, 2 Gunmen Caught by Craigslist Ad using victims Tel#

reply to post by Dimithae


To bad there was no one around to cut him in half with a 12 gauge as he was cutting that couch.

People will kill others over a pair of shoes. Social engineering and psychopaths don't mix.

reply to post by Dimithae


For some reason gangs and violence thrive in poverty stricken areas, not middle class or upper class ones. You don't see many rich white dudes doing drive by's or mugging people in the street for fun. I'm not saying that all crime is committed for the sake of money, but rather that the situation of poverty acts like a gateway to crime.

reply to post by fixer1967


So you'ed have someones life taken for a measly couch? On terms like those then who's to say a criminal is wrong in taking your life for an item of value that he wants? He can. It's wrong because material property shouldn't hold equal value towards someones life period. Only life threatening situations should. You shooting someone for trying to steal from you is not the same as you shooting someone because they are trying to take your life or physically harm you.

reply to post by f3rm1N


Sounds like you may have cut up a few couches your self.

Originally posted by Maluhia
The sad thing is wireless companies could put a stop to this but they won't - why? Profits!

Washington, D.C., police chief Cathy Lanier sees it every day: “It’s a huge business, huge business. The after-market resale of these phones ... the profit that they're making is just driving this whole problem.”

And, she said, the wireless industry is putting its own profit over your safety, allowing stolen phones to be reactivated later with a different phone number. Yes, that’s right: In most cases, black market buyers or the thieves themselves can still buy service on that stolen phone.

The relatively easy fix -

Every cell phone has its own unique ID, or fingerprint. Once the phone is reported stolen, it would be blacklisted in the U.S. Wireless companies from Verizon to AT&T, T-Mobile to Sprint, would all share information, banning service on that stolen phone on all carriers forever.

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edit on 28-4-2012 by Maluhia because: (no reason given)

Black listing these phones is actually already done to a certain extent.

I work in a place where phones are often left behind. WHen found we usually attempt to contact the owner. If no owner can be found, we hold the phone for about 30 days. After that, if still unclaimed, they are usually taken by employees.

The iphone is interesting. I have taken iphones, cracked them, unlocked them, and wiped them clean as if they had just come out the box. Just add your sim card and your good to go.

However, for a small security fee paid by the month to the phone companies, if your phone is lost or stolen you can have it locked and there is no way to unlock it to even wipe it clean. It is literally just locked. I came across one of these just a month ago. You will just have to take my word for it that I did everything known to man, every little trick there is to gain entrance through the backdoor just to get the access to wipe it clean and crack it. Nothing worked. Eventually I went to my old trust in case of emergency guy.... he works for AT&T. I sent the phone with him, he typed it in, and even he could not gain access because the owner had paid the extra security cost.

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
This is what happens when you ban guns in NYC. The guy had no way to defend himself against these vermin.

BINGO!!!!


When the criminal thugs KNOW that their victim will be unarmed, they KNOW that their actions will go UNCHALLENGED. They will outnumber their victim as always is the case, and they can EXPECT the crime to go in their favor as USUAL there.

NOW... in the PRO-gun carry states, NOBODY knows whether their "victims" will be armed or not. So these coward SCUM wont even try it.

POOR, POOR, PATHETIC NYC!!! I used to visit their often and you can NEVER feel safe with your family there when seconds count...

And as far as Bloomberg and the anti-gun nonsense there, GUESS WHO will ALWAYS be ARMED regardless of the laws there??

Answer: CRIMINALS!!!!!!

What a shame for the good and decent law-abiding folks of NYC!! They are defenseless from the SCUM who always are ARMED. Shame on NYC. SHAME on Bloomberg. Shame on the citizens their who accepted the brainwashing of guns being bad and extreme gun control being good. Shame on you for letting your 2nd Amendment rights be taken from you leaving you and your family DEFENSELESS against the criminal scum who will ALWAYS be armed...

SHAME!!!!!!

reply to post by MrWendal

However, for a small security fee paid by the month to the phone companies, if your phone is lost or stolen you can have it locked and there is no way to unlock it to even wipe it clean. It is literally just locked.

That's all well and good except the thieves don't know whose phones are lockable -- and will probably take their chances and steal it anyway. It has to become common practice by the wireless companies - so the thieves will know it's not worth it.

Someone earlier pointed out that they do it in Australia (and it is well publicized) and it has really cut down on phone theft.

Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
Violence, theft in particular, is linked to poverty. Instead of eliminating guns or telling everyone to strap up for the sake of "self defense," why don't we work to reduce poverty?

Oh right, because that would be socialism; god forbid we do anything to try and improve our community.

Were that the truth, we could count on the elite forfeitting their profits for say, one fiscal quarter. It isn't about poverty. It's about avarice.

I have lived in the Bronx in NYC for most of my life, and from the first time I took the subway, there are rules.

# 1!!!! DO NOT FLAUNT WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE STREET!!!!

This is the same logic I use when I see others not using a seat belt, its not that I'm not a good driver, I just dont assume everyone else is!

Chains, wallets, i-pods, laptops, these are all things that you can use at home, that is why so many people are now using Bluetooth, its harder to know that you have a phone. If you dont want your things stolen, then you cannot live in a large metropolitan area, and not expect at least one mugging.

Ive been mugged in NYC twice, and both for money, as I was to young to have any valuables at that time, but it taught me that when I did get nice things, and wanted to keep them, then I had to be inconspicuous. Its the rules of City life, it sad but its true.

It is NOT the victims fault that this happened, but it could have been prevented.

Peace, NRE.