What would you do if you turned up in Earth's orbit with a fleet of ships?

reply to post by Unity_99


I always feel like I am here for a purpose, but I am not exactly sure what it is. Almost like I am waiting for some kind of "activation", if that makes sense. My fellow humans are of the utmost importance to me.

I remember my Mom had a pretty neat astrology program for her computer. I had an aspect in my chart she could not find in anyone else's. I believe it was something aspecting Uranus in my chart but I would need to double-check that. Anyhoo..the basic premise was that this aspect was for those that were here to oversee, witness and help humanity at a time where the normal restraints of life were demolished, in a time of great fear and unrest, I would lead those who needed it.

Somehow, that seems reassuring.

reply to post by bastet11


Let's look it that way, do you (all) think humans have been granted to live, you know for free in a mere casuality that caused life here? Yes we have a purpose imo and it is more than just 'I wanna have a career' and a new car and anything materialistic. Maybe those 'Gods' or ETs or whoever could exist because saying humans are just happened for the sake of doing whatever humans want,, is wrong.

reply to post by bastet11


Yes you are, well that is reaching into a sensing inside. I do too.

One of the main things for me after researching so many things and seeing how people have been messed up so much, is compassion. And one of the hardest things I often read is about how we deserve to become extinct, we should be allowed to wipe eachother out, etc. After meditating on and off for so long I just can't fathom that mindset.

So when it comes to situations like this I think caring for the well being of others and having respect for them, be they animals, humans, aliens, is the most important thing. And when you read around about all these exopolitics stories it often seems like many of the aliens seem about as lost as many of us are. Yes a lot of them might have the technology and increased mental powers, etc, but if some of the stories are true it seems like it's not only humans that need help around now, but even many of them too.

Of course, many will be way ahead of us when it comes to caring for others, but I keep getting the feeling that it's not only humans that need some help.

And finally, saying we deserve to become extinct, we're all to blame and so on, what about the massive, massive amounts of people that are decent and want what's for the best of the all? Tens of millions of people that meditate and care for others, who try not to contribute to the mess we're in but help solve things instead. All the people from various religions that see people equally and try their best to be good. All the decent mothers, fathers, children, sisters and brothers that try not to cause problems for others and just want to live their lives as peacefully as possible. The artists, musicians, writers, actors and actresses that work to inspire others to better things, all the activists in the world helping raise awareness of issues that we should know about. And all those from so many other professions that keep some type of way of life working, and who without, the world would come to a grinding halt overnight.

They don't deserve to become extinct, and if you think they do maybe you should work on your own compassion and awareness? Even people that have messed things up and are doing bad things, they deserve some type of hope of redemption or the whole thing is futile. It's easy to think we're "woken up" at a certain stage, but so many of us have so much more to learn about the way we're all connected.

So even if there's a load of messed up aliens and people that work for them, or are pretty much forced to work for them, there's a way bigger picture to what's going on and a lot for us to learn. I don't really believe in good, but being natural with the way of things instead. And I don't really believe in evil either, but instead, illness. There has to be a way for this absolute mess to be sorted out, and without taking the route of wiping out billions of us, or allowing us to die off. That way has to be found somehow.

reply to post by robhines


i'd feed africa and take away the puny earth weapons.

then i'd hand out the holodeck tech and start the party!

reply to post by robhines


I would teach the masses how to say no.!!!! To the few thousand that run the world, if the masses don't respond by thinking for themselves, I would wipe them out because they are responsible for every evil thing that has ever happened. If you need a leader, hero or god you are nothing.


Just say NO this could be your last chance.

Wake up for real you let the crap happen, and you let it happen because your doing OK.

Good job i'm not the Alien leader.

I am from Amsterdam. Would invite them for a spliff

If I was benevolent. Leave Earth to solve their problems on their own under the pretext that all beings need to learn on their own to grow.

I I was malevolent. Kill all humans and take the resources to strengthen and expand my empire. When all resources have been extracted, destroy the planet.

The funny thing is this situation is completely true. well other than the part that we will decide what they do next.
the truth with photo evidence
our actions may influence their decisions, and I have no idea what they have planned, but they really are up there, and they are the good guys.

I'd have them arrest the bad guys immediately, notify everyone about the truth through the television immediately, and then give humans free energy and freedom.

Originally posted by chrismicha77
Release the Kraken!!!!

LOL!!!!! Thanks mate. That was PERFECT.

Star for you!

Originally posted by robhines
One of the main things for me after researching so many things and seeing how people have been messed up so much, is compassion. And one of the hardest things I often read is about how we deserve to become extinct, we should be allowed to wipe eachother out, etc. After meditating on and off for so long I just can't fathom that mindset.

So when it comes to situations like this I think caring for the well being of others and having respect for them, be they animals, humans, aliens, is the most important thing. And when you read around about all these exopolitics stories it often seems like many of the aliens seem about as lost as many of us are. Yes a lot of them might have the technology and increased mental powers, etc, but if some of the stories are true it seems like it's not only humans that need help around now, but even many of them too.

Of course, many will be way ahead of us when it comes to caring for others, but I keep getting the feeling that it's not only humans that need some help.

And finally, saying we deserve to become extinct, we're all to blame and so on, what about the massive, massive amounts of people that are decent and want what's for the best of the all? Tens of millions of people that meditate and care for others, who try not to contribute to the mess we're in but help solve things instead. All the people from various religions that see people equally and try their best to be good. All the decent mothers, fathers, children, sisters and brothers that try not to cause problems for others and just want to live their lives as peacefully as possible. The artists, musicians, writers, actors and actresses that work to inspire others to better things, all the activists in the world helping raise awareness of issues that we should know about. And all those from so many other professions that keep some type of way of life working, and who without, the world would come to a grinding halt overnight.

They don't deserve to become extinct, and if you think they do maybe you should work on your own compassion and awareness? Even people that have messed things up and are doing bad things, they deserve some type of hope of redemption or the whole thing is futile. It's easy to think we're "woken up" at a certain stage, but so many of us have so much more to learn about the way we're all connected.

So even if there's a load of messed up aliens and people that work for them, or are pretty much forced to work for them, there's a way bigger picture to what's going on and a lot for us to learn. I don't really believe in good, but being natural with the way of things instead. And I don't really believe in evil either, but instead, illness. There has to be a way for this absolute mess to be sorted out, and without taking the route of wiping out billions of us, or allowing us to die off. That way has to be found somehow.

edit on 29-4-2012 by robhines because: added

I think you'll find at the end of it all, people do want what's best for humanity. All this talk of extinction and wiping out billions because we aren't worth it is just that, talk. People want change. A change away from the current system, where most have little and a few have most. That is the real problem here, not any lack of compassion we may feel towards each other.

Recently here, someone asked, what would we all do if we suddenly had everything we wanted; well the answer would be, we would help each other to acheive oneness. We would give those who have less than us our help and our compassion, thus making the world better very quickly.

I think if there are higher beings watching, they can see us as a bunch of barbarians in our current state, but most likely take pity on us for not knowing any other way. In spite of this, we are waking up, albeit slowly, to what is really wrong with this world. I wouldn't be surprised if when that day comes, the aliens won't be very far behind. That's when things IMO will get very interesting.

reply to post by robhines


I hope that the cool norwegian hippie alians will start by stacking all the bankers and lawyers on fukushima, soak up some of that bad # they been sellin us for how many years? 2nd line then another layer of politicians! just joking of course!

Tell everyone the world was going to be destroyed to make way for an interstellar vogon highway...

And then find out were the mice went wrong.....

Oh wow! Look what they did to their own planet! We cannot afford to let these things spread. Terraform the whole planet and let it support something else.

Hey if we had the power to bring a fleet here then we would have the power to take out the Illuminati and their pawns...Sit back and see what would be the next lot of trouble earthlings would get themselves into.

Originally posted by robhines
....and you'd connected to our internet, cloaked smaller ships that had travelled around for a month or so, and you'd basically got a good idea of what was going on, and exactly which Humans were responsible for the current mess.

And the fleet of ships were waiting on your decision about what to do next. What would your next step be?

Download ALL Earth's porn, steal booze, loop da loop.

Originally posted by robhines
What would you do if you turned up in Earth's orbit with a fleet of ships?

Evacuate all the on-board sanitary systems.

Originally posted by robhines
One of the main things for me after researching so many things and seeing how people have been messed up so much, is compassion. And one of the hardest things I often read is about how we deserve to become extinct, we should be allowed to wipe eachother out, etc. After meditating on and off for so long I just can't fathom that mindset.

While I possibly haven't done as much as you, I've meditated to some extent. I've also at times found myself having the thought that humanity doesn't really deserve to survive. I don't think there's much of a conflict here, though; and I will explain.

"Deserving," in this sense, is defined as whether or not individuals should receive the predictable end result, of their current course of actions. A lot of humans are currently behaving in a way which, if they continue said behaviour, likely will result in their extinction.

One of the beliefs that I think meditation has led me to, is the idea that people shouldn't necessarily be shielded from the consequences of their actions. It is actually the opposite of compassion for that to happen, because if people don't experience the consequences of their actions, they can't learn, and they can't develop.

So if humanity is engaging in a set of behaviour patterns which are going to result in its' extinction, and they have expressed an adamant desire to resist changing said behaviour patterns, then to me, compassion dictates that they be permitted without interference, to follow that sequence through to its' logical conclusion.

If we believe that people are eternal beings, then we can also believe that in the process, they will not be entirely destroyed, but that they will reincarnate on another planet at a later time. Although, presumably, amnesia will still be present then as it is now, we can also hope that they will be permitted sufficient memory of their experience here, that it will motivate them to avoid it there.

And finally, saying we deserve to become extinct, we're all to blame and so on, what about the massive, massive amounts of people that are decent and want what's for the best of the all? Tens of millions of people that meditate and care for others, who try not to contribute to the mess we're in but help solve things instead.

Why then are the psychopaths our rulers, rather than these individuals, if they are not to blame?

reply to post by robhines

What would you do if you turned up in Earth's orbit with a fleet of ships?

Speaking as a hypothetical commander of a fleet of space ships...

Firstly; Quarantine. Cordon off this sector with some official stripey plastic ribbon and monitor the situation.
This planet confuses me and i need time to study it. (Spock! whats the status on the cappuccino machine?)
At first glance i see humanity enslaved by economics and yet i see also a large part of humanity worshiping economics of their own free will. Which ones are the slaves?
Alarmingly, weapons are the most advanced technology on the planet and yet most free willed people seem to be against them. Duality abounds within these people. Whatever help extended is subject to the same twisted reality its given to and hence could hinder more than help, the outcome could not be known. The only help we could safely provide is to gently encourage any sentiment in alignment with, (a) non destruction of a habitable planet and (b) the safety of neighboring life forms, planets and the universe in general.
(Spock! More safety ribbon please.)

One of the main things for me after researching so many things and seeing how people have been messed up so much, is compassion.

reply to post by robhines


This is very good point, (bit off topic)... I would put forward that a large part of mental illness is a chemical failure to experience empathy. So if i was a star fleet commander either benevolent or malevolent i could induce a planetary wave of compassion or i could induce a wave of psychopathy with the use of chemicals that are freely available on the planet.
Hang on a minute...