Hello ATS and the 'Social Issues and Civil Unrest' forum!
I don't like to start new threads without knowing which forum they should be authored in. However, this topic involves questions concerning proper
police procedure, local laws, and possible modification of local/state/ or government laws. If there is a more proper forum mods, please send it over
there and I will be grateful for that.
I had an appointment this morning. I stopped to get fuel and a cappuccino then decided to get a local news paper to help pass the time in the waiting
I was almost finished with the news paper when I decided to return to the 2nd page and check out recent local arrests, divorces, announcements.
Scanning over the page, I noticed an announcement that driver checkpoints would be conducted in the county on several future dates, the location as
well as the begin and end time for the relative checkpoints.
Normally I wouldn't find this strange, since they do occur and, to the best of my knowledge, they are always announced to the public beforehand.
One thing I did find strange was the type of checkpoints will be conducted. In fact I have known of only one type of driver checkpoint, it is the
sobriety checkpoints that are commonly scheduled across nearly any part of the USA.
There was also an announcement for the unfamiliar checkpoints, known as driver's license and insurance checkpoints.
I have just learned a bit more about them and apparently they are conducted in near identical fashion as a sobriety checkpoint, except the basic goal
is to bust people with expired, revoked, or absent driver's license. In the area where I live it is not irregular for the police to take you straight
to jail if they find you are operating a motor vehicle under any of the previous crimes (expired, revoked, or absent driver's license), during a
routine traffic stop.
Although being arrested for committing the crime of driving while having legal issues with your driver's license, which is indeed a crime as defined
by local laws, it does not seem legal for the police to stop random vehicles at will, simply to check that they have a driver's license and/or
What grounds are they using to halt your travel and demand to see your papers that the law requires you have, as well as keeping them on you at all
times, even while not operating a vehicle on a public road. I believe there is also a law that can be implied on you, if you fail to produce
identification upon request from a public service officer.
When did it become 'OK' to stop any and everyone one with out suspicion/probable cause?
Are the future driver's license checkpoints the product of recent laws that have been enacted and possibly implemented for one of the first times
since being carved into 'The Stone Wall of Laws' which citizens must obey?
Are 'driver's license checkpoints' a common occurrence and I have simply never realized it?
I have most definitely heard of sobriety checkpoints, but I do not recall ever hearing of a 'Driver's License Checkpoint'
If this type of checkpoint is new, could it easily be a way for law enforcement/governments to implement other laws, in order to make more arrests and
issue more citations and fines, as well as furthering the dominance and control of our friend, Mr. Government?
If it is not a new function of law enforcement, could it be that it is now being used more often in order for other new laws to be enforced against
the general, unaware public?
Either way, this is absolutely a ridiculous, dominating, intimidating, and controlling way to saddle citizens with more fines and jail time, while
simultaneously training citizens to be docile, unquestioning populations, that will swallow whatever the governments serve for dinner.
I won't go on much longer, I don't want this to turn into a rant against the systematic elimination of what little amount of true rights and freedoms
we have left.
How can we continue to sit back and let anyone whittle away our rights and convert our neighborhoods into the definition of a police state?
I hope that it's illegal to conduct these driver's license checkpoints and that your failure to comply can't be a used as reason for officers to deem
you suspicious or garner a probable cause labeling and subsequent search, arrest, or both.
It just seems very wrong to me at this point and I'd like to get your opinions on the use of driver's license checkpoints as a tool to implement new
laws, gain greater control, and further brainwash the population at large into a deeper level of submission
The name of the local news paper here, where I first saw the announcements, is 'The Mountain Press'. I went to their website in order to find a link
to use as sourcing material, but couldn't locate the exact announcement I am basing this thread off of. However, I was able to find a different local
news paper offering the same announcement. The announcement is presented differently than the Mountain Press, but the information is, in large part,
The difference being that the linked newspaper gives dates for only the 'Driver's License Checkpoints' and the other paper gives dates and times
separately, identifying each checkpoint as either 'Sobriety Checkpoint' or 'Driver's License Checkpoint'
The next link is to the local newspaper that printed the schedule found online:
The Seymour Herald
This link shows a list of checkpoints scheduled, I believe it is current, but it may not be up to date:
CheckPoint Schedule for Tennessee
edit on 28-4-2012 by
esteay812 because: tyops