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posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by Ericthenewbie
Religion is just the "security blanket" for the unknown aspect of death.


which theistic religion are you speaking about? you must not know much about religion except one particular theistic belief?

*from dust thou are and to dust thou shalt return...

I know this is very scary and unsettling to some, keep reading though.




posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 09:10 AM
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posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 09:16 AM
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All we gotta do is avoid taking religion serious... hey look what they call Greek gods.. a myth.. i bet the rate the non believers are emerging and now with internet people can express themselves without prejudice, in like 50 yrs, these current religions will be a myth.

We will be studying about these myth in mythology class, where they belong.



posted on Apr, 30 2012 @ 08:50 PM
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You should seek help immediately !



posted on May, 1 2012 @ 06:28 AM
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Christianity lasts???

A mere two millenia. Compare that to the Zoroastrians, the Jews, the Buddhists, the Hindu.

Christianity is practically the new kid on the block.



posted on May, 1 2012 @ 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by SimonPeter
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You should seek help immediately !


Surely you don't mean a "secular socialist" doctor?

Whatever happened to the divine healing power of Christ?

Or maybe you Really don't believe in that?



posted on May, 1 2012 @ 01:20 PM
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As i know it !
The single cell theory requires ;
1. A living cell structure , not a bead of moisture blended with amino acids , proteins etc .
2 . A strand of DNA that provides genetic information required for development .That is not a random occurrence in nature or the lab . We can alter strands of DNA but not create it .
3. An environment that provides the necessary nutrients for the cell to live . Oxygen for aerobic bacteria , the climate for it to grow , water etc.
Now for evolution . we have one cell . Hopefully it will multiply . It will reproduce itself over and over again , the same cell . Unless a mutation caused by radiation cutting one of the DNA strands there will be no change . After billions of these occurrences how many mutated life forms will survive . Not Many ! Now there is the problem of finding a mate for these multi celled mutants to breed with . Not likely . If a scientist could dispute creation he would make a really big deal of it . He would win the Nobel Peace Prize . How come we haven't heard about it ?
Plausible , how about the near death and clinically dead experiences ? There are more and more accounts of this by plausible people .
How about the bible Prophecy that is spot on with world events today . Excluding Earthquakes , volcano 's tidal waves and such ,the geopolitical situation called the NWO , Look at it hard it's not pretty and if you aren't aware of it you have been hiding yourself from it , but it will find you .
The bible isn't fun , it destroys some friendships , it changes people . That does not diminish it's validity .



posted on May, 1 2012 @ 07:08 PM
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Yup. You're right. I'm wrong.

Oh, how could I be so blind and foolish?

I'm gonna free all my slaves, kill the beasts, and embrace Christ!

I should've been studying the Bible all these years instead of tech manuals and evil science books.
With all the time I've wasted... Why...I could've decoded the Bible Code by now--I could've HACKED GOD! Just imagine, perfecting prayer to level at which I could materialize whatever I wanted through God's phone number!
And chasin' dem demons outta America and back on to the highway to Hell! Praise The Lord!

I think I'll go down to the lumber yard and repent by crucifying myself. It's the only way!
But first I'm gonna give all my savings away to those who need it most--to my favorite Televangelist!

I guess it's all a part of God's Plan!
Praise The Lord!

I'm changin' my name to CAPTAIN LOVES JESUS BEST!



posted on May, 1 2012 @ 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by CaptainLJB


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CENSORSHIP!



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by yahushuasaves
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I was referring to your post about thinking that it is all about getting rewarded after death. The security blanket from the first page. It's not a security blanket. The Bible is clear about what happens at death. The body dies, consciousness dies and the spirit (IE: Greek pnuema or breath) returns to God who gave it.

I see you have made no mention of the soul, why is that?
And consciousness dies? Can a person weep without a conscience? Can a person who feels shame and contempt do so without a conscience?
I fully agree that the spirit returns to God when we die, but to say that consciousness dies stinks of lack of research and experience.
I will ask you: How did you, as a supposed bible reader, come to the conclusion that consciousness dies?



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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[more I am watching a program the Nostradamus effect where even scientist are seeing where not the bible and other civilizations too far distant to have an effect on each other have pointed to this time where their prophecies are converging . Scientist are now researching the bible for clues to this coming time of question .
The world seed bank was not created for nothing as well as all the Deep Underground Bunkers .
There is something big about to happen .



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 07:41 PM
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Converging prophecies, eh? Is this that 2012 stuff? I think after this year there's going to be Many disappointed people out there...

Maybe you can call that the Nostradamus Effect but even just mentioning that man makes me wonder how gullible people can be...

I ask myself, What makes this centuries-old guy so special from other people? How would he be able to predict the future? What power did he possess?

Many civilizations speak of a doomsday in the future. Big hairy deal. Sooner or later everything dies. I'd just as easily predict that I will be dead within the next 50 years since none of my known ancestors ever lived to be 100.

On the other hand, if you really want to impress me with prophecy. I'd like to see something really outstanding. Like maybe some 17th century guy recording E=MC^2 in an actually published book.



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 12:47 PM
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You seem to be really agitated by the topic to the point of mental frustration . If you will , If your scared say your scared .
Some things you may want to consider ; these are the recent very expensive emergency seed bank that they have just built 400 feet deep in an icy mountain to protect the earths food sources against a life extinguishing event . Deep underground bunkers being built by the wealthy and military . All information on Sedna or what ever they call it now being blacked out including part of Google sky that could reveal why our Magnetosphere temporary reversed . Thats something that has happened before seeing that the solar wind is always emanating from the sun .
Then there is the obvious , Fukushima reactor building about to collapse and the MOX in the cooling pool can extinguish all life on earth . The likely loss of the Pacific Ocean fisheries due to radiation .The NWO that is more than a conspiracy now that will turn America into a Socialist Communist Fiefdom for one of the elite Banksters . If you know anything about George Soros and his pawn Obama you can see this .
Now not all of this pertains to verses in the bible , I laid all of this out to show that life as we know it is about to change soon .
Scientist much smarter than you or I are telling of something earth shattering about to happen with our planet concerning a gravitational upset , the seed vault being built to restart food crops supports that claim .
Thats in the bible as well as famine and pestilence .
This NWO that is controlled by banksters is revealed in the bible as well as the global money system that is called the Mark of the Beast system where you can't buy, sell or trade without the pledge and mark to the Antichrist system .This has only now been possible with the advent of the global Internet .
The bible in Zachariah 14 reveals the plague that Israel will pour out on those that come against it , and the plague can only be an atomic weapon . Read it
The bible must offend you but your hatred for it does not make it void .



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 06:22 PM
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No, I'm not scared. Not of this stuff.
I just don't believe in any of it because there's no real proof. For centuries people have screamed about a coming doomsday, and many very specific dates have been given. None of them have come true. The latest one's the 2012 winter solstice and I'm reasonably comfortable tossing that one into the same category.

What actually scares me are those people who are so obsessed with a doomsday that they'll want it so badly they'll make it happen themselves. Either by messing with a nuclear reactor or something equally nasty.



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 10:33 PM
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According to the bible it will be 1007 years from when ever the Great Tribulation starts so the world is not going to end for some time concerning what the bible may elude to . Now that we have put that to rest .
There are many life altering problems working in our lives now as I have mentioned . Many people who aren't morons or tin hat people as they have been branded are aware of subtle changes that have alarmed them . A lot of these so called tin hats are very intelligent people who do not keep the status quo . They actually look deeply into this gloomy information and do not shy away from it . My experience with those that deny the New World Order , Global Government , the Bible and other scary things that might impact their convenient reality also do not read national news or watch world news . I was that way for a time when the international news depressed me , so I didn't watch it .
I don't think we have to look at some crackpot to end life I think that theres already enough on our plate . But , yes there is a time where the main prophecy must converge basically after Israel became a nation .The parable of the fig tree eludes to when Israel becomes a nation from that time this generation shall not die . They became a nation in May of 1948 , a generation lives 3 score and 10 years . Many believes that indicates 2018 . That is not a date , and yes there have been many crackpots claiming to know exact dates . With what is viewed as a sign of convergence in the prophesies and 2018 , yes there will be a heightened sense of something big about to happen . If you actually studied the bible and applied the prophecy to the times so would you . From what I see in the news the outcome of a catastrophe of major proportions is inevitable one way or the other .My question to you is do you believe that this NWO global government is real? Are we moving to Socialism and the US Constitution will be done away with as well as private property rights per Agenda 21 ?



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by SimonPeter
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According to the bible it will be 1007 years from when ever the Great Tribulation starts so the world is not going to end for some time concerning what the bible may elude to . Now that we have put that to rest .
There are many life altering problems working in our lives now as I have mentioned . Many people who aren't morons or tin hat people as they have been branded are aware of subtle changes that have alarmed them . A lot of these so called tin hats are very intelligent people who do not keep the status quo . They actually look deeply into this gloomy information and do not shy away from it . My experience with those that deny the New World Order , Global Government , the Bible and other scary things that might impact their convenient reality also do not read national news or watch world news . I was that way for a time when the international news depressed me , so I didn't watch it .
I don't think we have to look at some crackpot to end life I think that theres already enough on our plate . But , yes there is a time where the main prophecy must converge basically after Israel became a nation .The parable of the fig tree eludes to when Israel becomes a nation from that time this generation shall not die . They became a nation in May of 1948 , a generation lives 3 score and 10 years . Many believes that indicates 2018 . That is not a date , and yes there have been many crackpots claiming to know exact dates . With what is viewed as a sign of convergence in the prophesies and 2018 , yes there will be a heightened sense of something big about to happen . If you actually studied the bible and applied the prophecy to the times so would you . From what I see in the news the outcome of a catastrophe of major proportions is inevitable one way or the other .My question to you is do you believe that this NWO global government is real? Are we moving to Socialism and the US Constitution will be done away with as well as private property rights per Agenda 21 ?


Well, for starters, we have the bible problem. The bible is a collection of dozens of scraps put together, rewritten and edited century after century. Ultimately, it's rather unreliable as a data source because it's been corrupted.
It's probably better to go back to earlier works like Sumerian tablets.

I don't know what subtle changes you're referring to. I read about Earth entering into another phase and all this about a frequency shift but I don't see any hard data to prove or disprove it either way.

The rest sounds like numerology to me, and I have serious problems with numerology because it's hardly a science. People can put numbers together all they want. If we're alive after 2018, I guess the next step is to add to that date.



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 11:22 PM
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I don't do numerology . You say that the bible is corrupted but there is no information to prove it . Also is the information that you read corrupted or did you just hear that the bible is corrupted . Did you put forth the effort to actually read and vet your sources .
Next you didn't answer my questions at the end of my last post or did I hit the nail on the head ?



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 08:41 AM
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I've been reading about the NWO for years but I still see no solid proof of its existence beyond a bunch of too-rich money-grubbing elites. That's Capitalism for you. Surely if they wanted to take over the world they could have done it by now, especially if the NWO plans go back centuries, along with the Illuminati, Freemasonry etc.

Agenda 21 I've never heard of. Is this another one of those Zion Protocols thingies?

I fear a Fascist takeover more than a Socialist takeover.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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Google < Agenda 21 > . You can find that Obama has signed us up to comply with it and also Google ICLEI which is the local government SUSTAINABILITY program . I'm sure that you remember Bill Clinton signing NAFTA and creating the Sustainable Development act . What it comes down to is that most of us are not sustainable . One of the reasons was evident in the French Revolution . We would rise up in mass and kick their butts . I guess the other thing you feel is rush hour traffic but you don't have the money to do anything about it . The NWO is real and the UN is their governing body but the money controls that . Ever wonder why the UN hasn't made an effort in Darfur. If you read the Eugenics Quotes by world our esteemed leaders you will read that letting certain people propagate would not be their goal . Ever wonder how much money an Ak47 and all that ammo cost ? Yet all of them have one . Who is paying for that genocide and who would profit ?
I do know that most people really do not want to know but all of these things are at the front door and knocking . As far as the bible goes ,it's not going to matter if you believe or not as far as whether this Tribulation will come upon us . We can see this thing building like a giant tsunami wave . The Patriot Act is an instrument to take your guns and Constitution away . The American government is selling us out and anyone who can't see that is (purposely) ignorant of the facts . There are a lot of people who act like Ostriches hiding their heads in the dirt . The approaching lion only sees juicy drumsticks sticking up. You can't hide from it .



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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Well, I do know that this country seems to be headed towards a police state. There are cameras everywhere, increased security, less freedom. The Patriot Act alone is a real insult to our liberties. I can't even order a goddamned pizza to pick up without giving my name--I don't have to give my number since Caller ID automatically does that for them! And fast food joints like McDonalds have signs up saying they won't accept $100 bills. Then next week it's $50. It's probably down to $20 now. Guess there's something wrong with real American currency.

It doesn't necessarily mean we're headed for Doomsday, but...

Okay, on the assumption that you're right about all of this... What do you suggest that I do?





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