posted on Sep, 28 2004 @ 02:04 PM
Just what ARE "Ancient Advanced Civilizations"?
I guess it would depend on how you defined "ancient" and "advanced".
I'd consider "ancient" as anything from the end of the Pleistocene forward. Certainly the fossil record is fairly clear throughout the Cenozoic
era (from the end of the Dinosaurs to today, and we certainly haven's seen the fossil of any critter smart enough to build an "advanced
Civilization" (I'm assuming you don't consider coral reefs or termite-cities as "advanced civilizations").
Given that most people consider large crania a necessity of civilization-builders (you have to be smart if you want to advance), the only critters
we've seen any record of which has that cranial capacity and manipulator expertise is old H. sapiens.
Since we haven't been around that long, any ancient civilization can't be much more than 500,000 years old, which means it's too young to have all
its traces wiped out by tectonic subduction, which means that some remnant of it remains, either buried very shallowly on the land or on the floor of
the sea. (I doubt it's under the ice anywhere, since Antarctica, I believe, has been shrouded in ice for longer than humans have existed.)
I can’t think of too many places on land which are capable of hiding an advanced civilization, which I assume incorporates cities. Admittedly, new
Mayan ruins are being discovered in Mesoamerica as we speak, but they’re typically additional Classical and post-Classical city-states of the same
basic culture, not a brand new one.
Sunken-in-the-ocean ancient /advanced civilizations? Possibly, but where? Atlantis, of course, is a popular belief, but the whole thing is based on
one person’s story, and Plato’s “Timaeus” and “Critia” seem to be more about the destruction of Thera a thousand years earlier than anything else.
But whether proto-Atlantis was Minoan or Egyptian, no trace of it has been found.
Sure, every couple of years someone comes out and sells a book that claims This Time, No Lie, We Really Found Atlantis And Here’s Our Evidence And
Here’s Our Story Available At Amazon.Com For Only $29.95. Problem is, after a couple of years, the story goes away and another one on the other side
of the world pops up and we’re still no closer to finding Atlantis that Plato himself was. The Might Temple Columns usually turn out to be
natural-forming hexagonal columns of basalt, and the new side-scan sonar pictures never seem to get made and the Ancient Spark Plug mysteriously
disappears from this guy who had it, and … but you can see where this is going.
The closest thing I can think of to a real, honest-to-Ghod sunken civilization is some fascinating research going on now at about 100 feet depth on
the north shores of the Black Sea. Here’s what Amazon.com says about a great book I bought last year, entitled “Noah’s Flood -- The New Scientific
Discoveries About the Event that Changed History” by Walter Pitman and William Ryan:
“The Deluge of Noah has long been one of the points of tension between geology and Christianity. Scientific diluvianism--the theory that the
earth's history was shaped by a universal flood--collapsed in the early 19th century, well before Charles Darwin wrote The Origin of Species. Since
that time, scientists and historians have assumed that the flood story derived from local events in Mesopotamia.”
“In 1997, geologists Walter Pitman and William Ryan proposed the first truly novel interpretation of the flood in over 150 years. Their studies of
sediments in the Black Sea convinced them that the body had been a freshwater lake until about 5600 B.C. When the rising waters of the Mediterranean
broke through the Bosporus, "ten cubic miles of water poured through each day, two hundred times what flows over Niagara Falls."
“With great intellectual daring, Pitman and Ryan have moved outside of their academic niche to suggest that this event had enormous consequences for
human history. They marshal evidence from archeology, mythology, linguistics, and agriculture to describe a flood-driven diaspora of early farmers.
Subsets of these people became (variously) proto-Indo-Europeans, Sumerians, Beaker People, Vincas, Tocharians--the founders of the early cultures of
Europe and western Asia.”
To me, this is a real and exciting story -- and it has all the advantages of actually being true. If you like ancient civilizations -- especially if
that “civilization” has affected ours -- you should really read Pitman and Ryan. It’s the real thing.
[edit on 28-9-2004 by Off_The_Street]