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Originally posted by RyanFromCan
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
If you are trying to say that only politically right leaning individuals can possibly be Christians, then your ignorance and bigotry is shouting out loud and clear for all to hear. Funny, you would not be the first person to tell me that a liberal can't possibly be a Christian, even if Christ's teaching would suggest a socially conscious lifestyle.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by RyanFromCan
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
If you are trying to say that only politically right leaning individuals can possibly be Christians, then your ignorance and bigotry is shouting out loud and clear for all to hear. Funny, you would not be the first person to tell me that a liberal can't possibly be a Christian, even if Christ's teaching would suggest a socially conscious lifestyle.
I was thinking about this yesterday. Early Christianity predates communism as we know it by roughly 1800 years. Karl Marx is known as the father of modern communism(that is from the 1800's on) and Karl Marx wrote that "religion is the opiate of the masses" and it is a known fact that Marxism and communism is basically a leftist ideology and incompatible with religion in general and Christianity in particular. Marxists and communists generally have been atheist and yet there is historical evidence that Marxists have infiltrated the church for the purpose of reforming it or destroying it from within.
So, you tell me if you think that religion and such leftist ideologies as Marxism and communism are compatible? I've heard and read some comments where people assert that Jesus himself was communist or socialist, but I believe that is pure bunk, and an attempt to paint the Master himself as something for the purpose of promoting an agenda of socialism.
Some people say that religion is communistic in some ways, particularly the environment of the clergy where nuns and priests live in a cloistered place and taken care of by the community. However, I would say that there is a difference between the voluntary caring for the religious who have devoted themselves to God and the forced redistribution of income by the State for any arbitrary reason the State can come up with. Some people just do not seem to discern these differences.
If you were looking for a cut and dried answer from me, you are not going to get one.
I maintain that Paul's letter to the Corinthians shows that he discerns the difference between charity and forced redistribution.edit on 2-5-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Nightwalk
reply to post by Partygirl
Poor guy. Hates the church and christians but probably was willing to give an arm and a leg to partake in a most christian tradition: marriage. Any wonder he's so angry?
Or probably another stooge hired to create further dissent.
Credit to the kids for walking out on that fudge-packer. The only unfortunate fact about the scenario was that everyone didn't walk out.
Originally posted by hisshadow
errr... if you didnt realize it, christians are the main source of intolerance on this planet.
Originally posted by FrankPoster
The US was founded and prospered by good upstanding Christians, but then in the past 2 or 3 decades the rot has sent in through moral corruption driven by atheists who have no moral framework only moral quicksands.
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Repeating a lie doesn't make it a truth.
America was meant to be a pure Christian Theocracy.
Because everything in the Constitution is supported by the Bible.
After all, America was founded on Christian values and was meant for Christians, and Christians only.
America is not a secular place and those who think so are delusional.
America is meant to be a Christian nation with Christian values. No others may apply.
1. Have no other gods before me [the God of the Hebrews].
2. Make no images of anything in heaven, earth or the sea, and do not worship or labor for them.
3. Do not vainly use the name of your God [the God of the Hebrews].
4. Do no work on the seventh day of the week.
5. Honor your parents.
6. Do not kill.
7. Do not commit adultery.
8. Do not steal.
9. Do not give false testimony against another.
10. Do not desire another's wife or anything that belongs to another.
Now, we can see at once that our society is entirely opposed to the first four, and indeed the last of these ten. As a capitalist society, we scoff at the idea of closing our shops on a choice market day. And our very goal in life is to desire--desiring is what drives us toward success and prosperity. The phrase "seeking the American Dream," which lies at the heart of our social world, has at its heart the very idea of coveting the success of our peers, goading us to match it with our own industry, and we owe all our monumental national success to this. Finally, our ideals of religious liberty and free speech, essential to any truly civil society, compel us to abhor the first three commandments. Thus, already half of Moses' doctrines cannot be the foundation of our modern society--to the contrary, they are anathema to modern ideals. www.infidels.org...
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
The first Amendment was meant for Christians only, in order to be more efficient Christians.
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by Annee
No, that is a lie. All Founding Fathers were devout Christians. to call them Deists is a bunch of revisionist history by once again, those ultra bigoted atheists.
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Repeating a lie doesn't make it a truth.
America was meant to be a pure Christian Theocracy.
Because everything in the Constitution is supported by the Bible.
After all, America was founded on Christian values and was meant for Christians, and Christians only.
America is not a secular place and those who think so are delusional.
America is meant to be a Christian nation with Christian values. No others may apply.
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...." and Article VI specifies that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
The first Amendment was meant for Christians only, in order to be more efficient Christians.Christians are the real Americans. We don't want no Muslims or Homosexuals and dirty rotten child sacrificing to satan Atheist in this country. In other words, only Christians have the right to freedom of religion, and what it really means is that only Christians have the freedom to worship God as they choose. Absolutely nobody else does.
"Separation of church and state" (sometimes "wall of separation between church and state") is a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson (in his 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists) and others expressing an understanding of the intent and function of the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. The phrase has since been repeatedly cited by the Supreme Court of the United States.
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...." and Article VI specifies that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
Thomas Jefferson "I have examined all the known superstitions of the world and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth."
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by Annee
They did base the government on Christian rule.
Neener neener.
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by RandomEsotericScreenname
Thomas Jefferson was also a devout Christian who wrote his own Bible.