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posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 08:58 AM
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Are you all familiar with Captain May and Ghost Troop? very interesting take on this: www.veteranstoday.com...
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posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Ain't Capitalism Great?

USA USA USA


Yes it is! Otherwise, you would be picking rice for a dictator while members of the military do as they wish with you or anyone in your family. You would be living in squander. Be careful what you wish for. Your request just might come true.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 09:28 AM
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So do the shrimpers get reimbursed for these lost wages too? I mean some already got settlements, but obviously that wont be enough now.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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And yet BP is still in business. Still drilling in the Gulf.

We all wail and gnash our teeth at the calamity and injustice of it all, but, make no mistake about it - this happens because WE LET IT.

As citizens of this planet we have done nothing to correct this injustice. We can't cleanse the Gulf but we could change the system that allowed this to happen, if we really wanted to. But alas, we are either too over-whelmed, too lazy or too disaffected to actually do it.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Ain't Capitalism Great?

USA USA USA


BP is not a US corporation.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 09:51 AM
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bookmarked.

lined.

marketed.

won.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 09:53 AM
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stupid thread
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posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by kn0wh0w
 


So do the shrimpers get reimbursed for these lost wages too? I mean some already got settlements, but obviously that wont be enough now.


Dollars to donuts, most of the ones who received settlements signed a waiver excluding them from future claims. BP was quick to settle up, that should have been a big clue that the ramifications of the spill would be epic.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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Well, I totally agree.
We try but the politics of de-regulation always win.
They have the money and that buys everything you need
to successfully pilage and decimate the Gulf/Earth.
So readers...
Please stop voting free market big oil everyone.
Please?
If your candidate says things like, "no big government"
and "we are the job creators". Or, "So what if you can
light your tap water on fire, fracking is essential"
How about, "See all this oily sand? "
"We are going to pump it full of chemicals and then
send it down a 3000 mile pipeline, just like that industrialist
God intended." "Oh you don't want that?"
"Obviously you're an anti-American, Obama loving, Pinko."
"Why don't you go make-out with the EPA?"

Ok maybe they didnt exactly say that last one.
Don't vote for these F'ers.
Even if they tell you Obama is the devil.
I'll give you a hint. It's a trick.
They'll say ANYTHING, to make a buck.
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posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 10:11 AM
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I have no doubt in my mind that these poor grotesquely disfigured sea creatures are that way because of the Corexit. Animals have lived with oil spills for a long time in the gulf, as natural leaks occur often. (Though not of the BP magnitude). Of course natural spills affects locally, but my guess is they have basically biologically condemned the entire area because of the mass Corexit use. I am sickened and saddened and my heart goes out to everyone victimized by these demonic people.
Another thing, is noticing the climate changes worldwide. I do recall reading some very good articles two years ago that predicted the change due to cutting off or weakening the Gulf Stream. Not sure if that is true or not, but just from a personal standpoint, it appears to be so..with weather going nutso all over the US in particular.
Of course, small scale changes occur over long periods of time to climate, but I do not believe it should happen this fast. For example, I live in So Cal. When I moved out here almost a decade ago, we would have about 95% sunny, warm, pleasant days during the year. Now, as I have been tracking for a few months now, most mornings we wake up to cloud cover that sometimes dissipates, sometimes does not. We have been staying chilly with almost weekly rainfall and storms. All I know, is if SoCal no longer is going to be sunny, what the hell am I staying here for, paying some of the highest rents in the country?? I came here for the sun and warmth. Most days, the sun is blocked up anyway with "contrails", and I take a daily pic of it a few times a day. Getting rarer now is the day we have cloudless sun.
The golden warm glow is also gone.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 10:33 AM
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But of course, according to BP, "everything is back to normal in the Gulf of Mexico and has never been better" if you believe their ads.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 10:40 AM
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Ditto on your stupid reply, thinking... that was all you think this is... how sad!!!!

I'm tempted to do a search on your previous threads, your responsiveness to your other replies that warrent further insight...

Why waste time like I'm feeling right now in doing so.

But I'm certain most people would perfer not to eat food that has been pissed on..

O-yes...Your Avartar.. now I understand.

Jesse



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by FissionSurplus
When the EPA told BP to stop dumping the corexit, BP told them no and kept right on doing it.

So the government bowed out and let BP do what it wanted. Yet if you or I were to dump a quart of motor oil in a storm drain, we would be fined big money and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

The whole time this disaster was happening, my husband had the live cam showing the blown well on his computer, and he stated that they were handling it all wrong from the beginning, and the way they kept playing with different caps and such was an obvious failure. My husband's family has been dealing with oil since the 1940s when his family drilled some successful wells in west Texas, so he understands oil and wells.

He feels it was done on purpose, to sabotage the Gulf, and I have to agree with him. By allowing the oil to flow unchecked, and then dumping a crap-ton of corexit into the waters, BP effectively killed the shrimping and seafood industry in the area.

Once it is deemed unfit for human consumption, the oil companies can drill, baby, drill, without any more worries about some pesky family shrimping business suing. It will be a dead zone, so the government cannot deny permits for deep-water drilling for fear of damaging the environment, because it's already destroyed.

Diabolical, evil, and totally on purpose.


Thank you for posting what you did because your husband weren't the only person saying the matter was mishandled intentionally. I'm not in the oil industry and it looked unbelievably suspicious to me, especially their defiance on using Corexit in spite of the "known" hazards. As mentioned by another poster the FDA would've came down real hard on an individual who poured used oil down the storm drain but yet they shut their mouths and went sat in the corner with BP who in my opinion intentionally polluted the Gulf.

Now your summation on the outcome of their polluting the Gulf could very well have validity and that just makes my stomach turn.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Ain't Capitalism Great?

USA USA USA


Just wait and see what happens when the GOP get their wish and get rid of "all these silly environmental regulations which are stifling businesses"



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 11:35 AM
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Hi Nature fans.


Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin
. . .what more do they plan on doing to destroy the country?

Make friends with Monsanto ??? B-)

We live in a sick continent !

Blue skies.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Ain't Capitalism Great?

USA USA USA


This has nothing to do with free market capitalism.

This is corporatism allowed by a treasonous and despotic federal government.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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The problem is that your alternatives suck.

You can get farm raised shrimp, which are soaked in pesticides and anti-biotics, which are routinely sold at supermarkets, or you can buy free range non-gulf/non-pacific shrimp which will be rediculously expensive.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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I don't think they did it to ruin shrimping for oil drilling. I think it was more diabolical than that, but remember the Prez had investments in BP and stands to gain 85 million within 10 years. Obama also had campaign donations from BP. Perhaps looking the other way was his way of paying them back. Strange behavior from a President who is so obsessed with ruining the coal and gas industry while propping up losing solar companies for his Green base. Also, instead of setting up the Gulf for oil drilling, he put a moratorium on off-shore drilling. I believe his motive was to ruin drilling for the industry while giving tax payer dollars to his favorite socialist oill companites(Petrobas).
Everything I have just said was all in the news at one time or another, including the US donations to Petrobas.




During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.


www.politico.com...

not to mention this from same article,


And since he became president, he rolled back tax breaks and giveaways for the oil and gas industry, spearheaded a G20 agreement to phase out fossil fuel subsidies, and made the largest investment in American history in clean energy incentives.”


So it's very interesting that we are seeing higher costs at the gas pump and liberals everywhere are complaining it's the fault of Big Oil or speculators. In other words this all translated into higher taxes on the industry which gets passed on to consumers and now consumers are mad and the liberal left blames the Oil Industry.


Pretty clever of Obama to ruin domestic drilling and make a ton of money at the same time and still have a big oil giant in your back pocket. Did I remember to mention that the Prez interfered with Republican gov Jindal's efforts to deal with the cleanup effectively? That was another newsworthy item.

Before I wrap up this post, I wanted to mention that the Rothschilds had a big stake in BP Oil. With both the Rothschilds and Soros influence, does anybody wonder why the little people are suffering?

The fund Obama invested money in was heavily invested in BP Oil


Not surprisingly, share prices of BP have fallen by more than half, over 55 percent, to be precise. Prior to the disaster, the stocks were trading above $60 in New York. 83 percent of Americans, the latest poll by AP-GfK suggest, disapprove of the way BP handled the crisis. International credit rating agency Moody lowered the rating of BP by three notches to A2 from Aa2. A statement from Moody said, "Moody's updated assessment is that the spill will have a sustained negative impact on the group's free cash flow generation and overall financial profile for a number of years."


www.oil-price.net...


The Investments were sold off before the disaster.


“Goldman Sachs wasn’t alone either in its astute “foreknowledge” of the collapse of BP’s stock value due to the Gulf disaster as BP’s own chief executive, Tony Hayward, sold about one-third of his shares weeks before this catastrophe began unfolding too.


But according to this FSB report the largest seller of BP stock in the weeks before this disaster occurred was the American investment company known as Vanguard who through two of their financial arms (Vanguard Windsor II Investor and Vanguard Windsor Investor) unloaded over 1.5 million shares of BP stock saving their investors hundreds of millions of dollars, chief among them President Obama.



For though little known by the American people, their President Obama holds all of his wealth in just two Vanguard funds, Vanguard 500 Index Fund where he has 3 accounts and the Vanguard FTSE Social Index Fund where he holds another 3 accounts, all six of which the FSB estimates will earn Obama nearly $8.5 million a year and which over 10 years will equal the staggering sum of $85 million.

69.84.25.250...

So, in lieu of all this, it seems that the Prez is in bed with BP Oil for his own profits while trying to please his Green base by declaring moratoriums on drilling. If anything it's the Left base which is deeply involved in stopping offshore drilling while promoting some leftist socialist Brazilian oil company, because socialists will do anything for their agenda, even promote socialized oil. So, oil is not really bad to a socialist, it's private oil that bothers them so much.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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I don't think they did it to ruin shrimping for oil drilling. I think it was more diabolical than that, but remember the Prez had investments in BP and stands to gain 85 million within 10 years. Obama also had campaign donations from BP. Perhaps looking the other way was his way of paying them back. Strange behavior from a President who is so obsessed with ruining the coal and gas industry while propping up losing solar companies for his Green base. Also, instead of setting up the Gulf for oil drilling, he put a moratorium on off-shore drilling. I believe his motive was to ruin domestic drilling for the industry while giving tax payer dollars to his favorite socialist oill companites(Petrobas).
Everything I have just said was all in the news at one time or another, including the US donations to Petrobas.




During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.


www.politico.com...

not to mention this from same article,


And since he became president, he rolled back tax breaks and giveaways for the oil and gas industry, spearheaded a G20 agreement to phase out fossil fuel subsidies, and made the largest investment in American history in clean energy incentives.”


So it's very interesting that we are seeing higher costs at the gas pump and liberals everywhere are complaining it's the fault of Big Oil or speculators. In other words this all translated into higher taxes on the industry which gets passed on to consumers and now consumers are mad and the liberal left blames the Oil Industry.


Pretty clever of Obama to ruin domestic drilling and make a ton of money at the same time and still have a big oil giant in your back pocket. Did I remember to mention that the Prez interfered with Republican gov Jindal's efforts to deal with the cleanup effectively? That was another newsworthy item.

Before I wrap up this post, I wanted to mention that the Rothschilds had a big stake in BP Oil. With both the Rothschilds and Soros influence, does anybody wonder why the little people are suffering?

The fund Obama invested money in was heavily invested in BP Oil


Not surprisingly, share prices of BP have fallen by more than half, over 55 percent, to be precise. Prior to the disaster, the stocks were trading above $60 in New York. 83 percent of Americans, the latest poll by AP-GfK suggest, disapprove of the way BP handled the crisis. International credit rating agency Moody lowered the rating of BP by three notches to A2 from Aa2. A statement from Moody said, "Moody's updated assessment is that the spill will have a sustained negative impact on the group's free cash flow generation and overall financial profile for a number of years."


www.oil-price.net...


The Investments were sold off before the disaster.


“Goldman Sachs wasn’t alone either in its astute “foreknowledge” of the collapse of BP’s stock value due to the Gulf disaster as BP’s own chief executive, Tony Hayward, sold about one-third of his shares weeks before this catastrophe began unfolding too.


But according to this FSB report the largest seller of BP stock in the weeks before this disaster occurred was the American investment company known as Vanguard who through two of their financial arms (Vanguard Windsor II Investor and Vanguard Windsor Investor) unloaded over 1.5 million shares of BP stock saving their investors hundreds of millions of dollars, chief among them President Obama.



For though little known by the American people, their President Obama holds all of his wealth in just two Vanguard funds, Vanguard 500 Index Fund where he has 3 accounts and the Vanguard FTSE Social Index Fund where he holds another 3 accounts, all six of which the FSB estimates will earn Obama nearly $8.5 million a year and which over 10 years will equal the staggering sum of $85 million.

69.84.25.250...

So, in lieu of all this, it seems that the Prez is in bed with BP Oil for his own profits while trying to please his Green base by declaring moratoriums on drilling. If anything it's the Left base which is deeply involved in stopping offshore drilling while promoting some leftist socialist Brazilian oil company, because socialists will do anything for their agenda, even promote socialized oil. So, oil is not really bad to a socialist, it's private oil that bothers them so much.
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posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 12:22 PM
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oops double post. Sorry. That rarely happens to me.

Also, let us not forget Maxine Watter's little rant at the Oil Company Execs, spouting off her socialist plan to take over the private oil industry and turn it into a socialist scheme. It fits in so nicely with the Prez' giving taxpayer money to Brazilian socialist Petrobas while ruining drilling for the US.
So the Prez looks the other way on Big Oil supports socialism, and makes a hefty buck.

Talk about opportunism.
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