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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by deadeyedick
Actually no, the Holy Grail is the cup Jesus used at his last supper. And there is nothing in the Bible that says a cup was used to collect his blood, at least as far as I know.
I would appreciate more input on this question please.
I thought there'd be more people interested in this subject.
Robert de Boron wiki entry
Robert de Boron is the first author to give the Holy Grail myth an explicitly Christian dimension.
According to him, Joseph of Arimathea used the Grail (the Last Supper vessel) to catch the last drops of blood from Jesus's body as he hung on the cross. Joseph's family brought the Grail to the vaus d'Avaron, the valleys of Avaron in the west, which later poets changed to Avalon, identified with Glastonbury, where they guarded it until the rise of King Arthur and the coming of Perceval. Robert also introduced a "Rich Fisher" variation on the Fisher King.
Robert de Boron is also credited with introducing Merlin as the son of the Antichrist.
The Holy Grail is a dish, plate, stone, or cup around which an important theme of Arthurian literature revolves. A grail, wondrous but not explicitly "holy", first appears in Perceval le Gallois, an unfinished romance by Chrétien de Troyes:[1]
it is a processional salver used to serve at a feast. Chretien's story attracted many continuators, translators and interpreters in the later 12th and early 13th centuries, including Wolfram von Eschenbach, who makes the grail a great precious stone that fell from the sky.
The Grail legend became interwoven with legends of the Holy Chalice.[2] The connection with Joseph of Arimathea and with vessels associated with the Last Supper and crucifixion of Jesus, dates from Robert de Boron's Joseph d'Arimathie (late 12th century) in which Joseph receives the Grail from an apparition of Jesus and sends it with his followers to Great Britain.
Building upon this theme, later writers recounted how Joseph used the Grail to catch Christ's blood while interring him and how he founded a line of guardians to keep it safe in Britain. The legend may combine Christian lore with a Celtic myth of a cauldron endowed with special powers.
The Grail as a magical object
We are at the feast at the end of a German version of the Grail story, when Parzival (the German name for Perceval) has become King of the Grail. He and his wife have name scrolls, which have been left blank. Anfortas, the Fisher King, sits on his right, wearing a broad hat (perhaps a traditional fisherman’s hat), while in the foreground smaller figures bring cups to be filled by the Grail.
The Grail itself is carried by the second of these smaller figures on the left, who holds it on a precious cloth. It is neither a cup nor a dish, but a strange and magical stone. As usual, there are minor changes from the text. Where the cloth is specified as green, the artist has clearly made it gold.
Wolfram von Eschenbach used Chrétien de Troyes' work as the basis for a very original version of the Grail story in the early 13th century.
The Grail stone is of heavenly origin, and its history goes back to the rebellion of Lucifer against God. In other words, the Grail belongs to Christian mythology rather than the story told in the New Testament.