Something happened in Saudi before 9/11 - I think I have the full answer here

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posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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I have been looking into this for a while, it was mentioned on an old thread way back "something happened in Saudi pre 9/11 that the American public were never told of" There was even a thread trying to get to the bottom of it but it went no where.

The link I am going to post reveals all, this is not the version we have been told of in the press and may even gives some clues as to who actually runs the agencies involved. Was 9/11 really designed and carried out by the "West" to stop the Arabs supporting another intifada?

cryptome.org...

Some small portions of the article below, however please just read the link for the full picture.


If we are to believe the Guardian, the BBC (and MI6, who runs them both), the Saudi Arabian government prefers to arrest, torture and behead innocent British subjects for terrorist bombings, rather than troubling the real culprits, who must surely be bearded Muslim fanatics. As with the 911 attack, what really happened is, as usual, very different. Read how Sir Derek Plumbly, and other Foreign Office officials, co-ordinated the murder and maiming of innocent British subjects, while deceiving the bereaved families, and the surviving victims.


The motive


The Saudi government had announced a plan to raise a billion dollars to support the Palestinian Intifada. The Intifada had been provoked by a visit paid to the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem by the hated Ariel Sharon with four hundred armed soldiers. This visit trashed what was left of the Democrats· foreign policy record, and in a close-run Presidential election helped the Bush ticket into the White House, while ensuring the downfall of Barak so that Sharon could take charge and form the seamless partnership with the Bush administration that continued right up until 911. In announcing the pledge to raise one billion dollars, the Saudis knew that they would be paying the lion's share, since few of the other Arab countries were able or willing to chip in significant sums. The prospect of Saudi millions made the Al-Aqsa Intifada a much more serious problem: now that the stone-throwing had served Sharon's purpose, how could it be stopped if the Saudi millions were going to feed it (and the families of thousands of Palestinians)? How could the Saudi government be brought back on side?


The response


Somewhere it was decided that a 'pro-Palestinian terrorist organization' had to be created at short notice in Saudi Arabia - one that would carry out an 'anti-Western' bombing campaign ·and would persuade the Saudi government that support for the Palestinians had got out of hand and a new crack-down was needed. Such a changed political environment would drive a wedge between the Saudi goverment and the country's militant pro-Palestinian lobby, thus making the government's largesse superfluous.


Hope you have found this an interesting read. I have no specialist knowledge beyond the link posted so I wont be able to answer any questions, but do feel free to throw ideas about, perhaps this links with some other aspect of 9/11 you have been investigating? If so I would be very interesting to hear your thoughts.

Look forward to hearing from you all!
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posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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This is unfortunately the major problem or flaw in all Secret Intelligence Services. They can and do get away with murder and probably a lot worse things too. Shysters (German slang for something appromixating #-head I believe) are shy and like to operate in shadows thereby robbing the rest of the world a insight into what they are really up to. When people get Knighted and suchlike after years of service one can only guess where the orders are really coming from....

I have no problem with a country having a secret service. I have major problems with the fact that their actions remain secret. Everything should be accountable to the people, including the personal finances of royalty.



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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Perhaps it is my deficiency, but I was unable to make any sense of the full article and its relationship to 9/11 which was my reasons for reading. Being an American, I suppose that my failure to comprehend the imporance of that article is somewhat understandable.

I urge the OP to present a thread that explains the whole situation If he wants us to appreciate his "full answer.".



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
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This is unfortunately the major problem or flaw in all Secret Intelligence Services. They can and do get away with murder and probably a lot worse things too. Shysters (German slang for something appromixating #-head I believe) are shy and like to operate in shadows thereby robbing the rest of the world a insight into what they are really up to. When people get Knighted and suchlike after years of service one can only guess where the orders are really coming from....

I have no problem with a country having a secret service. I have major problems with the fact that their actions remain secret. Everything should be accountable to the people, including the personal finances of royalty.



I must ask how you can have a secret service and its actions not be secret?



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Aliensun
Perhaps it is my deficiency, but I was unable to make any sense of the full article and its relationship to 9/11 which was my reasons for reading. Being an American, I suppose that my failure to comprehend the imporance of that article is somewhat understandable.

I urge the OP to present a thread that explains the whole situation If he wants us to appreciate his "full answer.".


It's relative because 911 was orchestrated to combat the Saudi's giving so much money to this group, from what I can see. And maybe it's for the best, what would a Palestine Terrorist group do with 1 billion? Wipe out Israel, and the USA needs Israel. Remember the Israeli company who's white vans are on CCTV the morning before 911 occurred? Seems Israel had it's reasons to be involved too...
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posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough but I will try again. Certain "things" may, possibly, need to be kept secret at the time but after operations have been completed there is no need for it to be sealed for 70 years for reasons usually cited as "National Security" (which is at best a misnomer imho). Secrecy aids corruption, theft, crimes against humanity, etc.
ETA Some things in the UK from WW2 are still secret I believe. What could possibly be worth that kind of paranoia some...70 odd years after the fact? Who is really served by the secrecy?
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posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by chaakin

Originally posted by Aliensun
Perhaps it is my deficiency, but I was unable to make any sense of the full article and its relationship to 9/11 which was my reasons for reading. Being an American, I suppose that my failure to comprehend the imporance of that article is somewhat understandable.

I urge the OP to present a thread that explains the whole situation If he wants us to appreciate his "full answer.".


It's relative because 911 was orchestrated to combat the Saudi's giving so much money to this group, from what I can see. And maybe it's for the best, what would a Palestine Terrorist group do with 1 billion? Wipe out Israel, and the USA needs Israel. Remember the Israeli company who's white vans are on CCTV the morning before 911 occurred? Seems Israel had it's reasons to be involved too...
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edit on 27-4-2012 by Aliensun because: Ooops hit entere before entered!
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edit on 27-4-2012 by Aliensun because: I keep having a problem getting this short response out.


I suggest one correction to your words above. You say "Wipe out Israel, and the USA needs Israel."

That is should be the other way around, Israel would have the most to lose and their continued antics seem to indicate that they won't stop short of what they desire. That makes more sense in understanding the gist of the OP.
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posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by chaakin

Originally posted by Aliensun
Perhaps it is my deficiency, but I was unable to make any sense of the full article and its relationship to 9/11 which was my reasons for reading. Being an American, I suppose that my failure to comprehend the imporance of that article is somewhat understandable.

I urge the OP to present a thread that explains the whole situation If he wants us to appreciate his "full answer.".


It's relative because 911 was orchestrated to combat the Saudi's giving so much money to this group, from what I can see. And maybe it's for the best, what would a Palestine Terrorist group do with 1 billion? Wipe out Israel, and the USA needs Israel. Remember the Israeli company who's white vans are on CCTV the morning before 911 occurred? Seems Israel had it's reasons to be involved too...
edit on 27-4-2012 by chaakin because: (no reason given)


Agree, as most of the hijackers were Saudi according to the official version the US could have turned the whole country into glass as a response but instead they blamed Osama. Saudi Oil is too important and they were given another chance I guess
I have read somewhere in the past 3 members of the Saudi Royal family were executed shortly after for being invovled in some way which is another little known fact however I have been very hard pressed to find any English article substantiating this.
I am of the opinion that 9/11 was a job which may even have involved many of the western intelligence agencies and Israel working together, perhaps to frame Saudi thus ensuring they keep out of the subsequent war on terror and obviously funding the Palestinians. Due to the events mentioned in the Op the British public were well indoctrined into believing there was a rise of extremism in Saudi prior to 9/11 - Newspaper says 15 Saudis on board hijacked plane = case closed, until of course they re open it with the Afghan connection.

It has been said in the past that when you get to a certain level in Intelligence they are all the same anyway. The business interests, which is what seems to be represented above the people often overlap.

Good point above from another poster about the knighthoods, however I think a lot of these honors are actually propesed by parliament. Bush senior was awarded Order of the Bath, was that for his fantastic service as President or his services in the CIA for 30 years including JFK killing? I read somewhere they call it the company as it has shareholders, can anyone elaborate on that if its not too off topic?

Also as far as I know the Royals have had no power since the Glorious Revolution where Charles I was executed, though the media paints a different picture i agree. I am personally more for "Crown Corportation" ie the City. They would certainly have a financial motive for something like 9/11 happening. The origins of the City is a book in itself, Rome then later the Templars who if you remember had their wealth confiscated by I believe James the first and given to the Knights Of Malta. All Bar associations are franchises of the Bar at the Temple Inn and The City, like Washington DC and the Vatican are completely independent of their host countries.

Also considering the Saudi's own substantial shareholdings in most of the American giants such as AOL plus id suspect these airlines since they were practically institutions, would they not have taken a pretty huge hit financially that day? Perhaps this was a warning - look how ruthless we are and we are keeping the money we shorted you on, ps you ever # us around re Palestine again well tell the public you did it. PPS were going to recolonise your neighbours and were opening a base in country.......

Thanks for taking the time to read the article, the above is kind of what I was thinking linking it with 9/11
I think there is a far bigger picture than we can see.
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posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by Aliensun


I suggest one correction to your words above. You say "Wipe out Israel, and the USA needs Israel."

That is should be the other way around, Israel would have the most to lose and their continued antics seem to indicate that they won't stop short of what they desire. That makes more sense in understanding the gist of the OP.
edit on 27-4-2012 by Aliensun because: (no reason given)


The USA needs Israel as there foot-in-the-door to the ME Oil.
Remember the USA is controlled by Oil & Military Moneymakers and bankers.





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