How do we know space isn't just one big conspiracy? , page 1


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reply posted on 26-4-2012 @ 11:33 PM by webpirate
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Look up. If you look hard enough, you can see satellites, the ISS, and even with a powerful enough telescope, you can see the remains of the Apollo landings on the moon. You might could fake A moon landing with people, but you can't fake the fact that we(the US) have indeed put ships on the moon. With or without people...the remnants are still there.

If space travel isn't possible, then explain modern communications with GPS satellites, and satellite internet. Sat phones. And don't try to get out of it by saying they aren't in space. Your OP didn't distinguish between deep space and/or low earth orbit. You can still see the remains of our flights to mars too.

We have been there. Whether or not we have actually put people on the moon and safely returned them, might can be up for debate. But whether or not we have reached the moon, or another planet with a ship is not.


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reply posted on 26-4-2012 @ 11:57 PM by this_is_who_we_are
reply to post by excitedwaterkickingritual



I had the same idea:

For The World Is "Hollow", And I Have Touched The Sky
www.abovetopsecret.com...
by this_is_who_we_are
started on 3/20/2012 @ 10:55 AM


reply posted on 27-4-2012 @ 12:11 AM by juveous
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Seriously....modern technology pretty much allows anyone with cash to leave this place.





reply posted on 27-4-2012 @ 12:38 AM by this_is_who_we_are
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And there you have it.
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reply posted on 27-4-2012 @ 02:58 AM by murkraz
I was first 15 years old I believe when I started to really question everything that there is, including consciousness. People would look at me weird and then revert back to feeling a sense of certainty that this physical plane and each morning we awake to, is the one, the only, and that the planets and stars are just background static, real enough for most humans to believe in, just because one can view this with their own eyes and a decent telescope, but not real enough in the sense that we can't see ourselves going to the stars anytime soon, or the mentality that the physical plane is just of more importance, so screw the rest.

I'm unsure if this is the only "consciousness" or "reality", due to a spiritual experience I had two years ago, and another most recently. I won't state the basis of this experience to avoid controversy, but perhaps someone will pick up on what I'm speaking of. In both instances my mind was plunged into a sea of thought I had never experienced before. Running thousands of thoughts every hour at a pace that drowned out the illusion of time, and with no perception of time, things felt terrifying. Without a perception of time I began to question much more and came to accept that my mind was working at a pace I had never experienced before.

With time gone, falling asleep was impossibly frightening, because every few minutes or so I would be wondering if I had yet fallen asleep, or if morning was here. It was all one, all connected, and I was genuinely confused by this. My perception became a snail's view, my thoughts, an eagle's eye, and everything remained constant, at one, and I felt myself go through sphere of reality after sphere. After so long I had felt as though I was thrown into another dimension, and what I saw, felt, was nothing like normal consciousness.

By the time I was myself again, I felt an intense appreciation of the regular rhythm of normal perception, the ability to use time, to plan out our day, to use the world as our own canvas.

Both experiences changed my entire life, and made way for a gradually siphening of knowledge that is still pitter-pattering down into my cerebral cortex to this day, and because of such experiences, I just cannot let go of the idea that there's a lot more to all of this than we'd like to organize in our brains. We need some blanket of security. In those states of mind, you come to face everything about yourself, things long lost, the bitter truth of the duality of reality.

It makes this world, this consciousness, seem like the real otherwordly experience, the real magic, though for this to exist, I feel there must be other levels, other branches to the one large tree. Yggdrasil they called it in Norse mythology, with marble-like worlds running off the one tree, one eternal pool of white water, pure knowledge. Each world projected as a swirl of cosmic mass, bulbs at the ends of delicate branches. There are many layers to this.

I don't think many of us are truly aware of just how amazing this opportunity is to be on this planet. If not plastered with so much negativity and fear, perhaps we'd be able to feel at one with nature and the planet like past cultures once were, like certain cultures still are, of the Amazon, of the mountains of Tibet and elsewhere, isolated.

Growing up in this western world, with a chosen view of the world drilled into my brain since birth, I have come to accept that even the educational systems dumb us down to a degree, in a way so as we do not question much of anything. Labour workers, devoid and punished for the urge to have other experiences, to live in happiness, to be our own individual, truly.


reply posted on 27-4-2012 @ 09:13 AM by Saint Exupery
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I have experienced similar revelation.
There is more to the world than what we see and measure.

However...

That does not mean or even imply that what we do see and measure is not true and factually correct.

As far as the OP...

I have never been to Idaho. Most people have not. I do not have the resources to go there to confirm that it is real. Should I therefore ask, "How do we know Idaho isn't just one big conspiracy?" A lie, perpetuated by shadowy and malevolent transnational oligarchies with omnipotent media control to mask the true origin of the potatoes from which megacorporations make the french fries that they then force disaffected teenagers to sell to the blue-collar cattle to fatten them up for the eventual alien harvest?

Or would that be just silly paranoia?


reply posted on 27-4-2012 @ 10:39 PM by longjohnbritches
Originally posted by Saint Exupery
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post by murkraz



I have experienced similar revelation.
There is more to the world than what we see and measure.

However...

That does not mean or even imply that what we do see and measure is not true and factually correct.

As far as the OP...

I have never been to Idaho. Most people have not. I do not have the resources to go there to confirm that it is real. Should I therefore ask, "How do we know Idaho isn't just one big conspiracy?" A lie, perpetuated by shadowy and malevolent transnational oligarchies with omnipotent media control to mask the true origin of the potatoes from which megacorporations make the french fries that they then force disaffected teenagers to sell to the blue-collar cattle to fatten them up for the eventual alien harvest?

Or would that be just silly paranoia?


Hi sai
I think the OP does not qualify for the forum.
And Idaho does qualify for silly parinoia or just silly anything.
you asked ljb
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