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Working ourselves into peasantry

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posted on Apr, 26 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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Anyone feel like they're being worked to the point where they might as well admit that they're peasants?

Think about it.

The more we make, the more they take, the less we have, the more we suffer.

Just something to ponder.

Left, center or right, your perspective is moot in this discussion.




posted on Apr, 26 2012 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword


Left, center or right, your perspective is moot in this discussion.




That takes 7/8 of ATS,out of the discussion.....!

My take?

All labor that uplifts humanity has dignity and importance and should be undertaken with painstaking excellence ~Martin Luther King, Jr.



posted on Apr, 26 2012 @ 11:35 PM
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Wow.

I see that quote at work everyday. Too bad they're too busy suppressing unions to realize this.



posted on Apr, 26 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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You could make a strong argument peasantry has replaced the working class and #ty welfare system in a way.
I'd like to think there's a difference between the two though, and I wouldn't use the stereotypical views of a "peasant" uneducated, poor hygiene, little rights to describe the working class.



posted on Apr, 26 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by sonnny1
 


Wow.

I see that quote at work everyday. Too bad they're too busy suppressing unions to realize this.


Hmmmm........

Which Unions?
the ones that are pandering to the Left, center or right?

If so,their perspective should be moot in this discussion also,don't you agree ?



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 01:12 AM
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If you design a system that produces debt from labour then, in words not out of place on the titanic, it's a mathematical certainty that the harder you work the faster you create debt. It may not exist in your name, as your salary attests. But the other side of the scales must exist, if you want a pay packet each week. They don't mention on the nightly news that the economic trickle down effect only applies to debt.



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:09 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
Anyone feel like they're being worked to the point where they might as well admit that they're peasants?

Think about it.

The more we make, the more they take, the less we have, the more we suffer.

Just something to ponder.

Left, center or right, your perspective is moot in this discussion.


stop being a consumer, if you have ever paid more than a few thousand dollars for a motor vehicle, if you have ever paid more than a few hundred dollars for an electronics gadget, if you have ever taken a holiday where you stayed in a motel instead of a tent, you are a willing consumer slave

etc etc etc

stop being such a willing consumer slave and you will find out that you can live very well with only a little work

its like watching those occupy wall-street idiots with all their smart-phones and branded clothes whining about the 1%



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
the less we have, the more we suffer.


Well there is your #1 problem



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:22 AM
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Work provides the food that my family eat.
Work provides for the roof over their heads.
Work provides an independance from outside agencies that would otherwise dictate how I should live.
Work provides an oppourtunity to do what I want, when I want, how I want.
With independance, comes self-esteem, personal worth (not measured in currency).
When purchasing items with money I have earned, I place a greater value on said items and take care of them.
I take pride in the work I have accomplished.

Working ourselves into independance.
Working ourselves into self-worth.
Working ourselves into taking pride.
Working ourselves into self-reliance.


His hair is crisp
Black and long
His face is like the tan
He looks the whole world in the face
For he owes not any man.

The Villiage Blacksmith
-Henry Wadsworth Longfellow


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posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:29 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by The Sword
 
Work provides the food that my family eat.
Work provides for the roof over their heads.
Work provides an independance from outside agencies that would otherwise dictate how I should live.
Work provides an oppourtunity to do what I want, when I want, how I want.
With independance, comes self-esteem, personal worth (not measured in currency).
When purchasing items with money I have earned, I place a greater value on said items and take care of them.
I take pride in the work I have accomplished.

Working ourselves into independance.
Working ourselves into self-worth.
Working ourselves into taking pride.
Working ourselves into self-reliance.


His hair is crisp
Black and long
His face is like the tan
He looks the whole world in the face
For he owes not any man.

The Villiage Blacksmith
-Henry Wadsworth Longfellow


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what is work? nothing but a trade of your time for their paper

any wise man would say that is not a fair trade at all



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:29 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by The Sword
 
Work provides the food that my family eat.
Work provides for the roof over their heads.
Work provides an independance from outside agencies that would otherwise dictate how I should live.
Work provides an oppourtunity to do what I want, when I want, how I want.
With independance, comes self-esteem, personal worth (not measured in currency).
When purchasing items with money I have earned, I place a greater value on said items and take care of them.
I take pride in the work I have accomplished.

Working ourselves into independance.
Working ourselves into self-worth.
Working ourselves into taking pride.
Working ourselves into self-reliance.


His hair is crisp
Black and long
His face is like the tan
He looks the whole world in the face
For he owes not any man.

The Villiage Blacksmith
-Henry Wadsworth Longfellow


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edit on 27-4-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)


what is work? nothing but a trade of your time for their paper

any wise man would say that is not a fair trade at all



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by QQXXw

what is work? nothing but a trade of your time for their paper

any wise man would say that is not a fair trade at all


Then eat, live, survive with what you find?

Or would you expect things to be provided for you.



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:34 AM
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reply to post by sonnny1
 


Why bother going into specifics?

Just happy to have a job at this point.



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:37 AM
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Where's the argument for serving someone else?

Beezer? Bueller? Do you even have a clue? Can you afford one at this point?

The peasants (aka, the former middle class) serve the rich [SNIP] that in essence, drain and bleed the system of valuable assets.

Imagine if you let Mitt Romney have unfettered access to the U.S government's inner workings. Think Bain Capital on steroids.

Then again, putting Obama back in won't mean [SNIP] at this point.

What this country NEEDS is a PEACEFUL revolution of ideas.

We need to take a page from our favorite white-flag fliers and RISE ABOVE.

"We" being the same people that beezer and the Republicans despise.

They're too [SNIP] brainwashed to see it at this point.
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Mod Edit: Enough with the swearing please!
edit on 27-4-2012 by Gemwolf because: Snipped profanity



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:38 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by sonnny1
 


Why bother going into specifics?

Just happy to have a job at this point.


Many are happy to have "just" have a job.

I do know this much. This is from experience. Its easier to find a new job,while you have a Job. I don't know you personally,but I hope you can find peace,with all your endeavors.



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by QQXXw

what is work? nothing but a trade of your time for their paper

any wise man would say that is not a fair trade at all


Then eat, live, survive with what you find?

Or would you expect things to be provided for you.


I don't expect to drive new cars, buy houses close to the city, or have shiny gadgets

I expect to work for food and shelter as well as access to knowledge and tools

I can achieve all this working 1 day a week

and so could anyone else who does not belong to the religion of consumerism



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:40 AM
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I don't wish to work anymore.

But you, beezer and the rest of the posters will call me a lazy #er, etc.

I have skills that can be used in an entrepreneur manner.




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posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by beezzer
 


Where's the argument for serving someone else?

Beezer? Bueller? Do you even have a clue? Can you afford one at this point?

The peasants (aka, the former middle class) serve the rich [SNIP] that in essence, drain and bleed the system of valuable assets.

Imagine if you let Mitt Romney have unfettered access to the U.S government's inner workings. Think Bain Capital on steroids.

Then again, putting Obama back in won't mean [SNIP] at this point.

What this country NEEDS is a PEACEFUL revolution of ideas.

We need to take a page from our favorite white-flag fliers and RISE ABOVE.

"We" being the same people that beezer and the Republicans despise.

They're too [SNIP] brainwashed to see it at this point.
edit on 27-4-2012 by The Sword because: (no reason given)


I thought we were leaving the paradigm out of the discussion?




Originally posted by The Sword
Left, center or right, your perspective is moot in this discussion.

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posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:43 AM
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reply to post by QQXXw
 


You pay taxes, you're entitled.

End of the story.

Don't let beezer and his ilk guilt you.

They're the sore losers leftover from the Reagan era. We'll have to listen to them ramble like the Lyndon LaRouches and Ron Pauls of the world (U.S more likely).



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:44 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by beezzer
 


Where's the argument for serving someone else?

Beezer? Bueller? Do you even have a clue? Can you afford one at this point?

The peasants (aka, the former middle class) serve the rich cocksuckers that in essence, drain and bleed the system of valuable assets.

Imagine if you let Mitt Romney have unfettered access to the U.S government's inner workings. Think Bain Capital on steroids.

Then again, putting Obama back in won't mean # at this point.

What this country NEEDS is a PEACEFUL revolution of ideas.

We need to take a page from our favorite white-flag fliers and RISE ABOVE.

"We" being the same people that beezer and the Republicans despise.

They're too #ing brainwashed to see it at this point.
edit on 27-4-2012 by The Sword because: (no reason given)


Golly.

I posed my opinion, and look who went partisan.




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