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Originally posted by thegagefather
I can point to the fact that you pay taxes because you have to, and that's empirical evidence.
You can point to the fact that there is no evidence, which is a lack of evidence. Not only that, but there IS written law, albeit there being a lack of statue. That form you get sent on a yearly basis, you know, the one you use to file taxes? Well, that's got the number you owe right on it, and believe it or not it comes from the fed and the state, and even the city!
Originally posted by thegagefather
When a King says to a peasant, "Do this." The peasant "Does this." Why? Because it is law, written or not. And it is law, because it is something his governing body decides they will punish him for if he does not obey.
That is why you speak philosophy.
Did I say the peasant obeys because god says so? No.
Agree to disagree, I suppose.
Originally posted by thegagefather
I specifically said that I DID NOT use the term "divine right"
Ever.
And I only used it AFTER you accused me of using it, to defend myself.
WE DID, HOWEVER, SAY MANIFEST DESTINY, WHICH IS DIVINE RIGHT TO A LAND, RATHER THAN A GOVERNING BODY, DIDN'T WE?
TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS.
When a King says to a peasant, "Do this." The peasant "Does this." Why? Because it is law, written or not. And it is law, because it is something his governing body decides they will punish him for if he does not obey.
And actually a lot of law is based upon "agree to disagree"
Also, we are agreeing to disagree successfully, because both of our points are valid.
You say there is no statue saying you have to pay taxes, which is true.
I'm saying you have to pay taxes anyways, which is also true.
Originally posted by thegagefather
When a King says to a peasant, "Do this." The peasant "Does this." Why? Because it is law, written or not. And it is law, because it is something his governing body decides they will punish him for if he does not obey.
Originally posted by thegagefather
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Indeed. None of my points are valid, and only your way of thinking can be true.
I apologize. I'll now leave you to this forum where I "don't even know what you're talking about" despite being pretty much the only person you've talked to since it's conception.
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Originally posted by thegagefather
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Indeed. None of my points are valid, and only your way of thinking can be true.
I apologize. I'll now leave you to this forum where I "don't even know what you're talking about" despite being pretty much the only person you've talked to since it's conception.
I encourage you to stay and have a discussion, but taking a discussion and dismissing at as a "agree to disagree" is not a discussion. Here, I will get you started on "income tax law":
Title 26, Section 1
The above link is clearly titled "tax imposed". What has the tax been imposed upon?