reply to post by doobydoll
I am very glad that worked out for you.
In my workplace, the way it is, and the type of workplace it is, that would have been so totally inappropriate for me to do. I would have lost my job
over it. Not that I wouldn't have minded going toe to toe with this person, mind you.
In the end, all it would have done is ended with me being drug down to her level, which I refused to allow to happen, though.
She was attempting to manipulate me to attack back, to respond in kind, so I would have disciplinary action taken on me.
In all respects, she was trying to get me fired. Since the attempts to get me to respond in kind failed, that is when she moved to the lies and rumors
in an attempt to slander me.
She was a highly manipulative person, and it is very frightening how calculating she was. You could watch her, looking for the "right" people to be,
or not be around before she approached me. You could definitely tell this was not her first rodeo.
When the stare down attack happened, the supervisor was a mere 15 feet away, but busy doing her job, so the whole event passed totally and completely
unnoticed by her, yet was witnessed by at least 4 other people, including my new trainee. It was fully designed to humiliate me in front of the new
trainee, and an attempt to make her lose respect for me. Thankfully, the new trainee saw through it.
She did end up sending a letter of commendation to my manager and myself after her training was over. She is a very sweet person, and I am glad to
have had the opportunity to have worked with and trained her. She is doing an awesome job in her new position.
Workplace Bullying..., page 3
reply posted on 26-4-2012 @ 10:29 AM by doobydoll
reply to post by Libertygal
I agree that not all instances can be resolved in the way I handled it. These workplace bullies need a taste of their own medicine in my opinion.
Give some people a title in their place of employment and they suddenly turn into abusive, disrespectful little Hitlers. Why is that I wonder?
I agree that not all instances can be resolved in the way I handled it. These workplace bullies need a taste of their own medicine in my opinion.
Give some people a title in their place of employment and they suddenly turn into abusive, disrespectful little Hitlers. Why is that I wonder?
reply posted on 26-4-2012 @ 11:20 AM by boncho
reply to post by Libertygal
I don't understand what led to this? What actions or what dealings with the trainee did you have that made them say things about you? And if there are other complaints about you how does it relate to your dealings with the problem trainee?
Is "many complaints about you" just from the one person, or are other people complaining about you?
Also, besides that, you went over your supervisors head when they weren't in the position to do anything about the trainee. Basically, it seems like they were hamstrung in the circumstance and just wanted to pass off the trainee.
In the rest of it, it seems like you handled it normally. But there still seems like a lot left out to the whole story....
Because she was going through my area and saying things about me to anyone that would listen that were untrue. She was making public spectacles as I outlined in my previous messages, proclaiming falsehoods and lies as she walked away from me, speaking loudly so others heard *her*. In the closed door meeting, she said that there were "many complaints about you..." as I put in my previous post. All lies, and all things that could have threatened my job.
I don't understand what led to this? What actions or what dealings with the trainee did you have that made them say things about you? And if there are other complaints about you how does it relate to your dealings with the problem trainee?
Is "many complaints about you" just from the one person, or are other people complaining about you?
Also, besides that, you went over your supervisors head when they weren't in the position to do anything about the trainee. Basically, it seems like they were hamstrung in the circumstance and just wanted to pass off the trainee.
In the rest of it, it seems like you handled it normally. But there still seems like a lot left out to the whole story....
reply posted on 26-4-2012 @ 02:51 PM by onequestion
reply to post by boncho
I think you need to take a more in depth look at the topic at hand before discounting the experience of others. When I get off work I plan on adding some context for you although that was not my intent.
I think you need to take a more in depth look at the topic at hand before discounting the experience of others. When I get off work I plan on adding some context for you although that was not my intent.
reply posted on 26-4-2012 @ 04:46 PM by Libertygal
reply to post by boncho
See, this is the problem. Nothing led to this, this was an action she took upon herself with her own motivations. You just answered your own dilema over the whole thing, as well as mine and the whole departments. There was nothing I did. Why does it have to be something I did? Why doyou feel a need to blame me for her actions?
You don't understand. There were no other complaints about me. She outright lied to the supervisor. Read what I wrote about the part where the supervisor warned her about spreading unfounded rumors. My peers like me. A lot.
It was all made up in her head.
I went over the supervisors head because being told to not talk to anyone about this outside the closed door meeting was wrong. She should have gone to the manager about the issue. You do not keep issues like this a secret, and my job was placed on the line with the lying and the supervisors apathy and seemingly doubting my side of what happened, not to mention her aparent apathy over speaking to the witnesses.
No, just some minor details about the specificness of the job which aren't necessary to have. Otherwise, you have the entire gist of it.
I don't understand what led to this? What actions or what dealings with the trainee did you have that made them say things about you?
See, this is the problem. Nothing led to this, this was an action she took upon herself with her own motivations. You just answered your own dilema over the whole thing, as well as mine and the whole departments. There was nothing I did. Why does it have to be something I did? Why doyou feel a need to blame me for her actions?
And if there are other complaints about you how does it relate to your dealings with the problem trainee?
You don't understand. There were no other complaints about me. She outright lied to the supervisor. Read what I wrote about the part where the supervisor warned her about spreading unfounded rumors. My peers like me. A lot.
Is "many complaints about you" just from the one person, or are other people complaining about you?
It was all made up in her head.
Also, besides that, you went over your supervisors head when they weren't in the position to do anything about the trainee. Basically, it seems like they were hamstrung in the circumstance and just wanted to pass off the trainee.
I went over the supervisors head because being told to not talk to anyone about this outside the closed door meeting was wrong. She should have gone to the manager about the issue. You do not keep issues like this a secret, and my job was placed on the line with the lying and the supervisors apathy and seemingly doubting my side of what happened, not to mention her aparent apathy over speaking to the witnesses.
In the rest of it, it seems like you handled it normally. But there still seems like a lot left out to the whole story....
No, just some minor details about the specificness of the job which aren't necessary to have. Otherwise, you have the entire gist of it.
reply posted on 26-4-2012 @ 09:57 PM by AkumaStreak
reply to post by onequestion
IMO, workplace bullying is a symptom of bigger social inadequacies in our society (adults? really?)/social immaturity.
Like most things, there are prob. a million exceptions to this assumption (so if you don't fit this bill, excuse me please).
Bullying is something that most people learn to deal with when young. If you have not, here's some advice.
Father tone starts now:
There are two types of people. Those that allow themselves to be bullied, and those who stand up for themselves/make enough trouble back at bullies that you're no longer an easy target. and they move on.
You tell this person who is bullying you that you've had enough of their bull*@&!, and that if they don't back off, you're going to deal with it.
He will be back, and when he is, you say "What did I tell you?" and punch this person square in the face as hard as you can. You might take a bit of a beating after (50/50 on this), but so what? You'll most likely be fine unless you are truly dealing with a murderer, and statistically, most bullies are just punks.
The bullying will stop if you stand up for yourself.
IMO, workplace bullying is a symptom of bigger social inadequacies in our society (adults? really?)/social immaturity.
Like most things, there are prob. a million exceptions to this assumption (so if you don't fit this bill, excuse me please).
Bullying is something that most people learn to deal with when young. If you have not, here's some advice.
Father tone starts now:
There are two types of people. Those that allow themselves to be bullied, and those who stand up for themselves/make enough trouble back at bullies that you're no longer an easy target. and they move on.
You tell this person who is bullying you that you've had enough of their bull*@&!, and that if they don't back off, you're going to deal with it.
He will be back, and when he is, you say "What did I tell you?" and punch this person square in the face as hard as you can. You might take a bit of a beating after (50/50 on this), but so what? You'll most likely be fine unless you are truly dealing with a murderer, and statistically, most bullies are just punks.
The bullying will stop if you stand up for yourself.
edit on 4/26/2012 by AkumaStreak because: (no reason given)
reply posted on 26-4-2012 @ 10:05 PM by rickymouse
reply to post by AkumaStreak
Why was he chewing tobacco while working in a restaurant?
I'd chew him out for a half of hour before
physically throwing him out. Boy he's lucky I wasn't his boss.
Why was he chewing tobacco while working in a restaurant?
I'd chew him out for a half of hour before
physically throwing him out. Boy he's lucky I wasn't his boss.reply posted on 26-4-2012 @ 10:11 PM by boncho
reply to post by Libertygal
Well, I go back to my earlier position that you are not qualified to handle trainees and those duties shouldn't have been given to you.
For the rest of the world that has to train and manage on a regular basis, these things don't happen. You should ask your employer not to put you in that position if you are unable to handle it.
You already said your peers respect you and like you, so why was your job on the line?
See, this is the problem. Nothing led to this, this was an action she took upon herself with her own motivations. You just answered your own dilema over the whole thing, as well as mine and the whole departments. There was nothing I did. Why does it have to be something I did? Why doyou feel a need to blame me for her actions?
Well, I go back to my earlier position that you are not qualified to handle trainees and those duties shouldn't have been given to you.
For the rest of the world that has to train and manage on a regular basis, these things don't happen. You should ask your employer not to put you in that position if you are unable to handle it.
and my job was placed on the line with the lying and the supervisors apathy and seemingly doubting my side of what happened, not to mention her aparent apathy over speaking to the witnesses.
You already said your peers respect you and like you, so why was your job on the line?
reply posted on 26-4-2012 @ 10:54 PM by Xaphan
Originally posted by rickymouse
reply to post by AkumaStreak
Why was he chewing tobacco while working in a restaurant?
Nah I was just joking. That didn't really happen.
I was just seeing how many people would take that seriously.
reply posted on 26-4-2012 @ 11:47 PM by onequestion
reply to post by AkumaStreak
Yea i have been down that path before and trust me it only causes problems.
Yea i have been down that path before and trust me it only causes problems.
reply posted on 27-4-2012 @ 12:24 AM by yurichan
reply to post by rickymouse
Yes and now we have workplace mobbing where the Bully manager etc gets his/her minions, lower level employees to do the bullying for them. Which is a lot more sinister and pretty much impossible to STOP unless you audio record their behavior which I highly recommend. That or leave and find another job which might be the better option at the end of the day.
Yes and now we have workplace mobbing where the Bully manager etc gets his/her minions, lower level employees to do the bullying for them. Which is a lot more sinister and pretty much impossible to STOP unless you audio record their behavior which I highly recommend. That or leave and find another job which might be the better option at the end of the day.
reply posted on 27-4-2012 @ 08:33 AM by strangedays
Originally posted by doobydoll
reply to post by Libertygal
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Give some people a title in their place of employment and they suddenly turn into abusive, disrespectful little Hitlers. Why is that I wonder?
Disrespect and lack of unity. Created by the system that teaches/supports them. LOL future looks AWESOME
reply posted on 27-4-2012 @ 10:11 AM by Turkenstein
Originally posted by onequestion
So i am incurring a serious issue of workplace bullying. I am also a witness to others being bullied in the workplace. So a few quick Google searches to see what other people are experiencing and this is what i find....
Source...
Bullying is a systematic campaign of interpersonal destruction that jeopardizes your health, your career, the job you once loved. Bullying is a non-physical, non-homicidal form of violence and, because it is violence and abusive, emotional harm frequently results. You may not be the first person to have noticed that you were bullied. Check to see how many of these indicators match yours.
It also says that 35% of the American workforce experiences bullying! That statistic is mind numbing! This is a huge problem and a very serious conspiracy. Not only are the jobs harder and harder to find, not only are they lower, and lower paying, they are also strenuous and harmful to our overall health and well being!
Source...
From CBS news....
If you run a typical American company — whether you have 10,000 employees or 25 — then you probably have a bully in your business. According to a 2007 survey conducted by Zogby International, almost half of U.S. workers report that they have experienced or witnessed some kind of bullying on the job - insults, threats, screaming, or ostracism.
So this is more mainstream. So people are starting to realize a problem. What does this say about the current model of American culture? This is a cultural problem, our problems as Americans are not finance related, they are not consumer related, they are culturally related.
Wiki...
In 2008, Dr. Judy Fisher-Blando[7] wrote a doctoral research dissertation on Aggressive Behavior: Workplace Bullying and Its Effect on Job Satisfaction and Productivity.[8] The scientific study determined that almost 75% of employees surveyed had been affected by workplace bullying, whether as a target or a witness. Further research showed the types of bullying behaviour, and organizational support.
So according to Wiki this is affecting 75% of Americans. I think we need to address this issue as a nation.
This is currently happening to me severely for no apparent reason. Is this happening to anyone else? What are you doing about it? What should i do about it? Is this affecting the job market and unemployment rates? Is this why young people want to work less and less?
Grow a "set," and go at this person as a collective or go it alone. Either way you have to do something. Quit or do something. When I was young I was bullied relentlessly. I decided I had enough because there would always be times I was alone and would only have myself to defend me. I joined a boxing club. I learned how to give respect and expect no less in return. If the bully doesn't go physical on you, then it is always your own fault for not putting a stop to it. If you are afraid of a physical threat, then make friends with a badass at one of the local fight (join) clubs. Guys who are skilled, most generally hate bullies and jump at the change to put them in check. I hate bullies and I have defended a few people in my life from them. Some people I have helped, I didn't even know.
I saw a dad in the mall pull his kids in close because of some loud animated punks going by. This caught one of their attention and they started following him and berrating him in front of his family for being concerned. I happened to be with two of my brothers so I wasn't worried about this guy's buddies. I started following these people and saying things to the bully to agitate him as he flagrantly harrassed the family man. As soon as the bully told me to mind my own buisness, pointing his finger at the same time, I stepped to him, put him to the floor, and said watch your mouth when you talk to me, boy. I told the father, a complete stranger, to take his kids and go I would take it from there. He actually said, "no, I want to see him get his!" The jokers decided this was not going to end well for any of them, so they "pop off" with the gansta talk to save face, but it is while they walked away.
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