posted on May, 1 2012 @ 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard
reply to post by Parture
Take your reasoning and all you wrote and insert the name Barack Obama instead of god. I dont think if Obama ordered the mass killings that you would
be so understanding if he suddenly said we ont do that anymore because its a new covenant. Your reasoning baffles me. I suspect somewhere deep
inside you know you are defending a failed argument. No, its not satan talking to you its common sense. God must be pervasive in everything,
consistent to the most minute detail and know everything( the christian god that is). Biblical texts describe a god that changes "his" mind
frequently on what is and isnt allowed. Confusing your followers and potentially landing them in the furnace of "hell" doesnt sound very fair.
Condeming someone who knows nothing of you is really unfair. Giving us the choice of picking the real god out of a lineup of other "gods" just aint
My god is within me and is pretty fair. If i screw up its with the understanding that there are consequences. I know deep inside that this isnt all
there is. Experience has taught me that. I only came to this realization after shedding the ragged, rotting clothes thrown to me by organized
religion. I learned to read various religious texts in a new way.
I'll stop debating you as I have given you things to consider. Find your own truth. Even your god will not hold it against you if you stop
listening to organized religion and look for him within.
edit on 1-5-2012 by Mike.Ockizard because: spelling
The old covenant has passed. We are under the new covenant now. Under the old covenant things were very barbaric so a commensurate action was needed
like killing off tribes of people engaged in human sacrifices. Barack Obama should say we are under the new covenant now so we don't kill people like
we did in the past, for the most part because they don't engage in the same dispicable behaviors as much. Proof is Israel survived, those other
nations no longer exist, and Jesus came into the world through the nation of Israel. It is an accomplished victory of the past. God was right, you are
wrong. This behavior of God in the past is consistent with today, because today if human sacrifices became pervasive, similar actions of the past
would be required to stop such horrific evil. But the New Covenant accounts for the fact times have changed.
Why do you blame God your choice to go to Hell? That's your choice. He gives you the choice. God gives you the choice to follow any god you want. Any
religion that is true would be accessible. There is only 3. Chritianity, Hinduism, Islam. Islam is wrong because it grew out of a guy in a cave six
centuries later who said Jesus never died on the cross without any evidence. Hinduism is wrong because you are not coming back as a chicken if you sin
too much. Only Christianity is true and personal for enters His creation. And you can't find a naturalistic explanation to account for the testimony
of the Apostles seeing Jesus alive from the dead in various group settings.
He does not force salvation on you. How many people follow your god? Just you probably. So what makes you think your god is the correct one since you
are the only one who follows your god? Sounds like your following yourself.
Realize only in Christianity does sin get properly dealt with. Sin leads to death and the second death which is Hell. If you keep the whole law except
for one little tittle of it, you are guilty of sin and eternally separate yourself from an infinite perfect and great God. You are flesh. That which
is born of the flesh is flesh and the verdict is death. You cannot atone for your own sins since you are the source of the problem. You can't refine
or educate your flesh. It mus die. The solution is God's Son atones for your sins, pays the penalty you ought to pay, and saves you if you were
willing to receive what He did for you. Only a sinless perfect God can atone for sins, and Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh to do just that.
The choice is yours.
The problem with Christianity is that it is not organized, and God in His word says this is the problem (Laodicean church period of "differening
opinions"), that Christians are disjoined. It is needs to be organized with Apostles directly chosen by God who appoint Elders of a church locality
who in turn approve the elders of each meeting place.