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Originally posted by Iason321
reply to post by Starchild23
I am that I am,
you are what you are,
we are what we are,
think what you want, believe what you will,
acceptance is key and redemption is real,
Originally posted by Starchild23
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Sorry, lost my train of thought. But really, considering Jesus is the keystone of religion, it was indirectly related.
I don't think the Masons "discovered" anything...they inherited the knowledge, then hoarded it because it had the power to upset every possible balance of power in the mortal world.
Originally posted by Starchild23
reply to post by MagnumOpus
I'd still love to know everything they found out...
Sometimes Zedukim. A Sect called from its founder Sadoc, or Zadok (see Secund Samuel viii, 17, xv, 24; First Kings i, 34), who lived about 250 B.C. They denied the resurrection, a future state, and the existence of angels. The Sadducees are often mentioned in the New Testament, the Talmud, and the Midrash. The tenets of the Sadducees are noticed as contrasted with those of the Pharisees. While Jesus condemned the Sadducees and Pharisees, he is nowhere found criticizing the gets, words, or doctrines of the third sect of the Jews, the Essenes; wherefore, it has been strongly favored that Jesus was himself one of the last-named sect, who in many excellent qualities resembled Freemasons. The Sadducees were the most conservative of forces, the Pharisees more advanced in the later thoughts and tendencies. The Gospels throw an interesting and significant light upon these circumstances and their effects in that era.
Meriwether Lewis, Master Mason
The skull-and-crossbones is an ancient symbol for death. The comparative crudness of this example, and the fact that it does not belong in the overall symmetry of the design, suggests that it might have been added after the owner's demise.
"My brothers, we meet this day to commemorate the death of our most wise and perfect Master - NOT as inspired or divine, but as at least the greatest of humanity."
One is not even allowed to close a prayer in the name of Jesus, but instead must use a vague reference to God, which could mean anyone or anything. Teaching of the Kabbalah, Zend Avesta, and the Gnostics are used along with astrology and the doctrines of ancient false gods such as Osiris, Semiramis, Isis and Krishna. The Hindu gods Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are also given reference as deities.
Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions.
Karl Marx, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right
In the above quotation Marx is saying that religion’s purpose is to create illusory fantasies for the poor. Economic realities prevent them from finding true happiness in this life, so religion tells them that this is OK because they will find true happiness in the next life. Although this is a criticism of religion, Marx is not without sympathy: people are in distress and religion provides solace, just as people who are physically injured receive relief from opiate-based drugs.
Even worse, this “drug” is administered by the same oppressors who are responsible for the pain and suffering in the first place. Religion is an expression of more fundamental unhappiness and symptom of more fundamental and oppressive economic realities. Hopefully, humans will create a society in which the economic conditions causing so much pain and suffering would be eradicated and, therefore, the need for soothing drugs like religion will cease. Of course, for Marx such a turn of events isn’t to be “hoped for” because human history was leading inevitably towards it.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by arpgme
So, end your prayer with "yes', or "Halleluyah" if you want. God looks at the heart, not a magic string of letters, words, or syllables you have to get correct.
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Originally posted by 0mage
The Freemasons have been a victim of the establishment propoganda machine. George Washington was a Mason so were others you may well know including Scotty Pippen from the Chicago Bulls etc. The establishment has hadthe goal of assisting manking in its spiritual evolution. YES, they hold the secrets of ancient times. The secrets of the pyramids and the secrets of the human body and mind. Over time the organisation has been infiltrated by a few who have private malevolent intentions. The entire organisation is not to blame for these few ppl. Having had access to ALL of the masonic teachings without being a mason intiated by the organisation. I can tell you their teachings opened up a whole new world for me in understanding of life's mysteries. You may follow the propganda train if you want. but the proof is in the pudding. and while many wander around not knowing their purpose in life as well as the truth behind the Freemasons goal they succumb to mainstream media demonizing of one of the remaining powerful organisations that have the general population of earth well-being in mind. They simply wish to turn you against your major allies. so educate yourself. I still have all the books. I understand the rituals and that they are indeed not spellcasting or demon worshipping in any way. but simply acts of historical occurences.. think f it like aesop's fables. the whole thing is about knowing the moral of the story and you gain a much greater understanding through enactment and assuming the roles of those that were actually involved.
Yes the mason have had an agenda aimed at releasing the secrets little by little into the population so that we can learn to withstand and adapt to them without going into chaos with the sudden introduction of a world consuming truth.
I will end with explaining the nature of symbolism. why it is so revered in the foundation of Freemasonry and the answer is simple. There are many names for God, many cultures, many contradicting practices and beliefs of the various religions on earth. the underlying truth is that it doesnt matter what name you use to address God. As long as you understand what God is in terms of addressing him with the correct symbolic meaning in your mind when praying.
Explained: We all know what a duck is. supposed i was to tell you that another word for duck is chicken, and someone else says another word for duck is horse. When you are in conversation with these ppl.. when the 1st person refers to a chicken you can conjure the image of a duck in you mind and know effectively that what they are speaking of is a duck(white feathers, yellow beak, floats on water etcetc) same goes for the other person speaking about a horse. you know when they say horse the image they are referring to is a duck. Thus it does not matter what word you call the creature as long as the ppl you are communicating to understand what the characterises the symbol. Thus no matter what religion you are from, you can speak a universal language through symbolism which can also be used to come into contact with the supreme being.
The unveiling has already begun and much of the knowledge out there now you can thank the freemasons for making it publicly available on google. Altho it seems totally un-connected to the uninformed. Those of us who know the true agenda through research or through involvement can tell you that this is all going according to plan and totally on schedule. The freemasons are humanity's friends against ALL forms of slavery or enslavement of men. When was the last time someone walked out of the vatican church enlightened? is he himself even enlightened and in contact with GOD? The answer is NO! the vatican and the catholic church are falsities who have locked away all of the great knowledge they have plundered and murdered for over the centuries. But God has put a bar on their minds that they will never understand it even withthe greatest scrutiny. That they will bring scholars to help them and God will give the scholar understanding and they will still not understand his explanation. For he knows they are evil with evil intentions for mankind and wish to turn u against your only friends in the battle for human spiritual realization. Such is the power of the Supreme Being, God, Allah, Krishna, whichever you wish to call him!
a good look around from the inside. if you cant see the truth in this document it simply means you have ALOT of research to do.
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