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The Masons discovered the highest truth on Jesus and the Essene centuries ago.

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posted on May, 3 2012 @ 10:04 AM
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Napolen as a Mason.


Most everyone has seen the Painting of France's Napoleon as a Mason with his "Hidden Hand" symbolic stance. Napoleon was to become the great Conquror and was well on the way.

He visited Egypt and stood upon the Great Pyramid and remarked from the view and understanding here that he could see a thousand years into the past and thousand years into the future. The latter being connected with the thousand years of peace theme.

Napoleon, as a Mason, gave him a unique view of the Royals of France and the history of Jesus plight into Southern Mediterranean France. France has volcanos, which get back to the themes of Moses and other Biblical stories. France came to be the home of Jesus and family, and Napoleon would know all the Templar history of France and why the Roman Vatican wanted to exterminate the Templars, the Morivengians, and keep the truth of Jesus as a mortal man hidden. The Catholic church was literally still trying to kill all traces of the real Jesus long after his death.

Napoleon, the enlightened Mason met defeat at Waterloo. If he kept up his path he would have taken Russia even. Napoleon held some ultimate truth and that truth was so dangerous to the British Empire's right to rule and the Vatican's claims of religion that a deal had to be stuck to isolate Napoleon from the rest of the world to keep those truths from becoming public knowledge.


This same sort of thing happened with Rudolph Hess's isolation due to being Hitler's third man in power, and running off to Scotland to work some big coup deal. Hitler spent a lot of time searching for the truth of religion and manipulation and deal making with religion. Hitler made deals with the Catholic Churches to keep their property in return for support. This also mean't the Catholic Church was used to supplant Hitler spies into Catholic Churches posed as Priests. The Catholic Church became a National Security issue for the US over that dealing in Spies.




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He also joined the Thule Society, a right-wing völkisch occult-mystical organization.[8]



Hess's mission was to propose a deal with Scotland of some sort, but it was rejected and Churchill had him locked up for life because he simply knew too much to allow to roam free and make his pitch to other people. His deal idea appeared to be a little out on the fringes of thinking, and perhaps sought to have issues between Scotland and England develop. Lots of his information is still locked away today because it appears so sensitive and embarrasing to some groups. Hitler's gang was also into occult issues as part of their quest for religion issues, as was Hess.

Germany was the site of the Martin Luther movement to catch the Catholic Churches corruption on indulgence as another faked up scam of the organized church. But it does appear that Hiter's men gained a great deal of the insights that Napoleon had and the Germans also learned much in Egypt also. They appear to follow the like trails for tracing down truths.

Hess's knowledge was so feared that he was locked in Germany's Spandau Prison for life and he only died in 1987 by what was suicide. Hess was the last and longest kept German Prisoner, and the prison was literally torn down after his death to keep it from becoming an icon of worship of what he knew and why he was kept as a political prisoner, much as Napoleon was kept a political and religious prisoner.

Masons have their roots of origin in Germany and it apepars that a number of the Hitler folks were able to tap into the Mason's discoveries and truths and then work various deals. Some of the deals used the Catholics to sustain hate for the Jewish bankers over Versallies Treaty, and this boosted Hitler into power with Catholics as his partners.

Thus goes the role of Masonic Secrets being kept by force in the case of Napoleon and via similar force against Rudolph Hess, who was not a Mason but appears to have gained the similar knowledge of the Masons, the Truths of France with regard to Jesus, and the Scottish and English wars over devine blood right of rule.

It is clear that Hitler didn't like the truths the Masons held and disbanded them in Germany, but it appears Hess had some Masonic like details that he sought to change the directions of the war.




www.biblebelievers.org.au...

The Masonic historian, Albert G. Mackey, describes the Illuminati as a "secret society, founded on May 1, 1776, by Adam Weishaupt who was professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt" (Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, p.346). In his biographical sketch of Weishaupt, Mackey opens with the following words, "He is celebrated in the history of Masonry as the founder of the Order of Illuminati of Bavaria" (Ibid., 842.). Mackey later adds, "His ambition was, I think, a virtuous one; that it failed was his, and perhaps the world's misfortune" (Ibid., 843).

The Council of 13 = 13 Druids. Sir Winston Churchill was a member of the Ancient Order of Druids.
The Council of 33 = the 33o Masons.
The Council of 300 = the 300 wealthiest dynastic families.





edit on 3-5-2012 by MagnumOpus because: The Pathways of secrecy that is repugnant to a Free Society




posted on May, 3 2012 @ 10:30 AM
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I couldn't find the spot where...I think it was you who posted about the supposed tomb of Jesus...

Did they really find that? Like I said, I couldn't find the spot where it was, so I couldn't find any replies you may have made. Could you elaborate a little on that? I know I can do the research, but I wanted to see what insight you may have had on the topic...

Thanks in advance.



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 10:59 AM
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You probably think that way since you're not a true Christian,

"Rasta 420"



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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God forbid he not worship "the one and true God".

Love is God. As long as you love, you know God.



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Starchild23
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I couldn't find the spot where...I think it was you who posted about the supposed tomb of Jesus...

Did they really find that? Like I said, I couldn't find the spot where it was, so I couldn't find any replies you may have made. Could you elaborate a little on that? I know I can do the research, but I wanted to see what insight you may have had on the topic...

Thanks in advance.


It is called "The Lost Tomb of Jesus" and was found in an area of Jerusalem called Talpiot.

It has the Chevron symbolsm, as does the entrance to the Renesse Le Chateu.

All the Templars appear to have known where it was located and held some rituals there.

Even Mary is noted as "Master Mary", which is a term for the Essene high knowledge.

One may note the Le Chateu speaks to the knowledge contained in the place being terrible. And if one does note the actual history of the extended family of Jesus it is one of nearly eternal persecution to attempt to stamp out any trace of the real truth and the power of blood relationships that extended forward.



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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Is it the real tomb?

And are any of the existing bloodlines currently in power? i.e. the Illuminati or Freemasons?



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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I learned about the tomb in India, in Kashmir, from a very respected Doctor: Haji Prof. Fida M. Haissnan, M.A.(History), Ll.B.(lawyer), D. Archaeology....and so much more.
Fida Haissnan wiki bio

Quite learned, experienced, and honored. His theories make great sense to me...he's a native of Kashmir. I bought his book (co-written with a Rabbi)
The Fifth Gospel ; New Evidence from the Tibetan, Urdu, Sanskrit, Arabic and Persian Sources About the Historical Life of Jesus Christ After Crucifixion

It's a very informative read, notwithstanding it's rather poorly organized, jumps around, and was not copy-edited very well. It's a print-on-demand book...but the information contained within it is indispensable for those seeking the actual story.

brief snippet of their disclaimer and perspective:

More than one billion people in the world have no other holy book except the Bible. It is considered to be the original text on the life and mission of Jesus Christ. The faithful believe that the Bible has always existed in the form in which they see it today. They further believe that there are no other holy books except the Bible.

They do not know that not only was the Bible changed, altered and shortened from time to time, but many other scriptures and Gospels were banished from circulation, and destroyed by burning, as ordained by the Church.

From the start, Christian Councils have met and taken decisions on doctrines from time to time, with the result that the Christian faith, as it exists today, is the faith imposed on us by the ecclesiastical priests. The net result has been that Jesus Christ, as presented today, appears to be some other personality from the one which existed two thousand years ago.

As such, what is needed, is to search the real Jesus Christ. By searching the real Jesus Christ, we do not intend to do away with all that Christianity stands for today. We plead to make a dispassionate study of the life and mission of Jesus Christ, who has declared, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life."

check out the link above, though, for more info.


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posted on May, 3 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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You know what, Starchild?

For once, I agree with you



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by MagnumOpus




More than one billion people in the world have no other holy book except the Bible. It is considered to be the original text on the life and mission of Jesus Christ. The faithful believe that the Bible has always existed in the form in which they see it today. They further believe that there are no other holy books except the Bible.

-First of all, there are over TWO billion people in the world who believe in the Bible. Secondly, we do not believe the Bible has always existed in the form we see it today, that is a ludicrous and untrue statement. I believe the Holy Quran holds spiritual truths and I also believe a lot of the apocrypha and other religious texts from around the world and throughout the ages hold many spiritual truths, but the Bible is the ULTIMATE authority, Gods True Authentic work.....other religious texts may hold bits and pieces of spiritual truth and guidance for how to live a peaceful life, but the Bible is the only complete work, which also foretells the end from the beginning....

They do not know that not only was the Bible changed, altered and shortened from time to time, but many other scriptures and Gospels were banished from circulation, and destroyed by burning, as ordained by the Church.

That is common knowledge, and I'd hope any Christian would know about that, but I would also hope any Christian would fully research it to see that the Gospels and books we do have in our NT are legit.

From the start, Christian Councils have met and taken decisions on doctrines from time to time, with the result that the Christian faith, as it exists today, is the faith imposed on us by the ecclesiastical priests. The net result has been that Jesus Christ, as presented today, appears to be some other personality from the one which existed two thousand years ago.

This is strictly deceit and nothing more. There are hundreds of examples of early Christians, including the apostes who walked with Jesus and many who existed at the time he roamed earth and in the years directly following it, and Christians today know exactly what they did and what they preached (an ascetic lifestyle and preaching the Gospel and spreading Love)

As such, what is needed, is to search the real Jesus Christ. By searching the real Jesus Christ, we do not intend to do away with all that Christianity stands for today. We plead to make a dispassionate study of the life and mission of Jesus Christ, who has declared, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life."

check out the link above, though, for more info.

To find the real Jesus Christ, read the Holy Bible, the one this misled person is trying to discredit with nonsense judgments and shallow belief.....


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posted on May, 3 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by Iason321
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You probably think that way since you're not a true Christian,

"Rasta 420"


Are you a true Christian?
What is a true Christian please?



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 12:17 PM
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Iason, this guy's credentials blow your narrow-minded opinion completely out of the water.
Try reading it. You sound ignorant.

AND REFORMAT YOUR POST so it doesn't look like I made that nasty remark about the author.
but in case you won't, I'll section it out here:



"To find the real Jesus Christ, read the Holy Bible, the one this misled person is trying to discredit with nonsense judgments and shallow belief....."


^^^^These are YOUR WORDS, not mine!!




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Because it pisses me off when people are too sloppy to be clear, and I would NEVER say anything like Iason did.

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posted on May, 3 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Iason321
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You probably think that way since you're not a true Christian,

"Rasta 420"

Who are you too judge? For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you measure, it shall be measured to you again. matthew 7:2 You don't know my relationship with the father!



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by Starchild23
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Is it the real tomb?

And are any of the existing bloodlines currently in power? i.e. the Illuminati or Freemasons?


Yes, these are real tombs with real bones. And more developing all the time.





www.foxnews.com...



The link here shows the what they think is the Jonah tomb being nearby.


Most of the Royal Blood leadership things have been mostly dissolved because they caused so much trouble with wars for regional power. French and Englist colonizations are no more. All is replaced by the corporatism methods that use the wealth of the Royals to do much the same as Royal power games of past eras

But the old game appears to have been one of which Bloodline from David was the better. So, the Jesus bloodline of the French Morivengian line was a threat to the other royals.

Eventually, it appears lots of the Jesus bloodline was killed off in France. Dagabert III was the last there.

But the issues of the Royal Bloodline for rule of England was the last episode. Seems like Elizabeth's was pretty clear back to David . Then the rule shifted to some Germans as the next closest bloodline and this became the Windsors.

It appears there was an issue just as in Jesus times of their being more popular, and the same with the Morivengian Kings from Sarah's line.


As many were killed off in France the extended family moved into Scotland and the issues of royal blood with Jesus in the loop was what made battles there. England was within the Roman Empire controlled by the Vatican, and Scotland was outside and has the Jesus bloodline there. Seems like the line of division was Hadrian's wall.

It was all about whose blood are we going to allow to lead.


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posted on May, 3 2012 @ 04:43 PM
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I saw the word "real bones" and immediately dismissed the idea.

If there were bones in that tomb, it wasn't Jesus' tomb. According to Christians, his body was gone, so how could there be bones?

Either that isn't the tomb of Jesus, or Christianity is a lie.



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by artistpoet

Originally posted by Iason321
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You probably think that way since you're not a true Christian,

"Rasta 420"


Are you a true Christian?
What is a true Christian please?

I believe a true Christian is someone that has excepted Gods love and helps to spread that love.



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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Same to you!

Peace be with you!

Amen



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 04:55 PM
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"Amen"...There you go praising Egyptian gods again...which holy and sacred commandment does that break? The one about false idols and such?

I'm sure you remember.

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posted on May, 3 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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How have i judge you?



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 05:09 PM
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AMEN (AMON) AND AMEN-RA, KING OF THE GODS, AND THE TRIAD OF THEBES

Among the gods who were known to the Egyptians in very early times were Amen and his consort Ament, and their names are found in the Pyramid Texts, e.g., Unas, line 558, where they are mentioned immediately after the pair of gods Nau and Nen, and in connection with the twin Lion-gods Shu and Tefnut, who are described as the two gods who made their own bodies, and with the goddess Temt, the female counterpart of Tem.

It is evident that even in the remote period of the 5th Dynasty Amen and Ament were numbered among the primeval gods, if not as gods in chief certainly as subsidiary forms of some of them, and from the fact that they are mentioned immediately after the deities of primeval matter, Nau and Nen, who we may consider to be the equivalents of the watery abyss from which all things sprang, and immediately before Temt and Shu and Tefnut, it would seem that the writers or editors of the Pyramid Texts assigned great antiquity to their existence. Of the attributes ascribed to Amen in the Ancient Empire nothing is known, but, if we accept the meaning "hidden" which is usually given to his name, we must conclude that he was the personification of the hidden and unknown creative power which was associated with the primeval abyss, gods in the creation of the world, and all that is in it.

The word or root amen, certainly means "what is hidden," "what is not seen," "what cannot be seen," and the like, and this fact is proved by scores of examples which may be collected from texts of all periods. In hymns to Amen we often read that he is "hidden to his children, "and "hidden to gods and men," and it has been stated that these expressions only refer to the "hiding," i.e., "setting" of the sun each evening, and that they are only to be understood in a physical sense, and to mean nothing more than the disappearance of the god Amen from the sight of men at the close of day. Now, not only is the god himself said to be "hidden," but his name also is "hidden," and his form, or similitude, is said to be "unknown;" these statements show that "hidden," when applied to Amen, the great god, has reference to something more than the "sun which has disappeared below the horizon," and that it indicates the god who cannot be seen with the mortal eyes, and who is invisible, as well as inscrutable, to gods as well as men.

In the times approaching the Ptolemaic period the name Amen appears to have been connected with the root men, "to abide, to be permanent;" and one of the attributes which were applied to him was that of eternal. Amen is represented in five forms:

1. As a man, when he is seen seated on a throne, and holding in one hand the scepter, and in the other the symbol of "life." In this form he is one of the nine deities who compose the company of the gods of Amen-Ra, the other eight being Ament, Nu, Nut, Hehui, Hehet, Kekui, Keket, and Hathor.

2. As a man with the head of a frog, whilst his female counterpart Ament has the head of a uraeus.

3. As a man with the head of a uraeus, whilst his female counterpart has the head of a cat.

4. As an ape.

5. As a lion couching upon a pedestal.

Just another way constantine an the council altered the word of God



posted on May, 3 2012 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by Starchild23
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I saw the word "real bones" and immediately dismissed the idea.

If there were bones in that tomb, it wasn't Jesus' tomb. According to Christians, his body was gone, so how could there be bones?

Either that isn't the tomb of Jesus, or Christianity is a lie.



It does get down to just that issue. Thus, all the hoopla about Jesus Tomb is organized religion seeing some writing on the walls. Real Jesus tomb says he died sometime, had a real family, and was a mortal man off to hide from the hate of the Romans and Pharisee.

The Templars appear to have found the Lost Tomb with no trouble because of the French Jesus knowledge, and they kept it all covered up and hidden except for the occasional special visits to check on things.

It was only found by accident with a new apartment building being built, then people started digging some to see if the issues fit. Nearby Jonah's tomb adds more to the theme of Jesus Tomb. Guess they need to dig up a Dagabert or other extended family connections and try some DNA work.


You know my theme and that which appears to be the Masons is that Jesus was Mortal and he died.

The issue of Jesus died and came back from the dead is a faked up issue that divides the world today and the source of wars over religion issues, and we really haven't left the bloodline of Kings war games via this still going on today.

You all believe in fantasy and the rest of us believe in reality. There are no miracles, just rational common sense things.

It is your type fake games that made the area of Renesse Le Chateu a terrible place. And that story appears to be where Jesus took off and how the Templars took up hiding Jesus' blood line. It became a secret knowledge needed to protect Jesus and the extended family.


Odd how a stack of lies turned the world upside down now for 2 thousand years, and you still don't know any better way.



edit on 3-5-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Very difficult to miss the Jesus in Southern France issues with St. Sarah and much more history there.



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