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Originally posted by DrEugeneFixer
Originally posted by psikeyhackr
So we have an Intellectual Imperialism problem and ultimately that is more important than any conspiracy.
psik
Yep. It's the "intellectual imperialists" who are wrong for trying to stuff their Ideas down free peoples throats, not the armchair physicists with paper models.
Of course if I am correct then the PhDs have spent TEN YEARS creating a problem for themselves.
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by psikeyhackr
Of course if I am correct then the PhDs have spent TEN YEARS creating a problem for themselves.
Which is more likely all the PhDs in the world have screwed up or you (non PhD) are wrong?
As far as I can tell the majority of PhDs are saying NOTHING about a lot of things.
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by psikeyhackr
As far as I can tell the majority of PhDs are saying NOTHING about a lot of things.
Likely because there is no doubt in their 'experienced' minds.
Your mind seems to be stuck in a loop over the "distribution of steel and concrete'. Perhaps if you obtained a degree in the related field your doubts would subside.
Originally posted by Sahabi
reply to post by samkent
You are attacking the source of the information and launching personal attacks instead of addressing the information itself. Classic distraction tactic.
• So what if people signed a petition that were not present in NY on 9/11. They present video and written testimony of people who were actually there. This is not a valid argument. Were you there during the Holocaust, or conquests of Alexander the Great, or during the crash that lead to the Great Depression, or were you there when the Mount Rushmore was built? No? Then what is your point?
• Who cares how many members are part of Firefighters for 9/11 Truth as compared to the general population. This is also not a valid argument. How many famous celebrities are there compared to the general population? How many leaders and politicians are there compared to the general population? Does this mean celebrities and politicians are delusional and fringe? If yes, then why do you believe the Original Story of 9/11 as told by these "delusional" and "fringe" minority we call politicians?
Attack the source of the information and launch personal attacks, but do not address the actual information itself. I see what you're doing.
Peace
edit on 4/26/12 by Sahabi because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Sahabi
reply to post by TrickoftheShade
Hello TrickoftheShade.
I don't need to present any thesis because many have already done so. Many conspiracists present valid evidences and rationalizations. Many times their proofs are ignored, and the arguments solely revolve around personal attacks and the conspiracist's own hypothesized "whos" and "whys". I do not want to fall into such a trap with 'whos' and 'whys' that are pure speculation on my behalf.
• WTC #7: Some debris fell onto Tower #7 and a fire started. Hours later the entire building collapsed at near free-fall speed in an apparent controlled-demolition which resulted in a perfect implosion into its own footprint. I am not satisfied that some debris and a fire can cause such a take down of a building.
• Pentagon: What happened to the wings of the plane? The damage to the outside facade of the Pentagon and the inner corridor damage shows absolutely no room for wings. Only a small puncture hole. Looks like a missile hit. They say the plane kinda did a skid on the lawn which ripped off the wings. Then why was there no such damage to the lawn? This is why they hurried to cover the pristine lawn with rocks and gravel shortly after.
I'll save all the speculation to whoever. I'm just asking questions about observations.
Peace.
edit on 4/26/12 by Sahabi because: (no reason given)
Hardly a wave of change is it. More like the normal sprinkeling nuts in the world. Interesting how it's about the same number of "pilots for truth". Once again there's always that certain percentage .0000001% of people way out on the fringe of society.
Has your religion been offended?
.WTC #7: Some debris fell onto Tower #7 and a fire started. Hours later the entire building collapsed at near free-fall speed in an apparent controlled-demolition which resulted in a perfect implosion into its own footprint. I am not satisfied that some debris and a fire can cause such a take down of a building.
• Pentagon: What happened to the wings of the plane? The damage to the outside facade of the Pentagon and the inner corridor damage shows absolutely no room for wings. Only a small puncture hole. Looks like a missile hit. They say the plane kinda did a skid on the lawn which ripped off the wings. Then why was there no such damage to the lawn? This is why they hurried to cover the pristine lawn with rocks and gravel shortly after.
After WTC 1 collapsed:
Heavy debris on Vesey Street and WTC 7 Promenade
No heavy debris observed in lobby area, white dust coating
SW Corner Damage -- floors 8 to 18
South face damage between two exterior columns - roof level down 5 to 10 floors, extent not known
South Face Damage
middle 1/4 - 1/3 width south face, 10th floor to ground
large debris hole near center around 14th floor
1/4 width south face, above 5th floor, atrium glass intact
8th/9th floor from inside, visible south wall gone with more damage to west, 2 elevator cars dislodged into elevator lobby
Originally posted by Sahabi
reply to post by TrickoftheShade
Once again, the points I made are ignored in favor of steering the conversation:
Has Thermite ever "magically" showed up in a demolished building? If yes, I would love to know about it, as it may help to alleviate my ignorance.
And we have SO MUCH EXPERIENCE with airliners crashing into 1360 foot skyscrapers!
ROFLMAO
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by Sahabi
Has Thermite ever "magically" showed up in a demolished building? If yes, I would love to know about it, as it may help to alleviate my ignorance.
That thermite thing has been shown to be false with a second (2 months ago) round of testing.
Originally posted by Sahabi
reply to post by GenRadek
Hardly a wave of change is it. More like the normal sprinkeling nuts in the world. Interesting how it's about the same number of "pilots for truth". Once again there's always that certain percentage .0000001% of people way out on the fringe of society.
Sounds like personal attacks to me.
'FireFighters for 9/11 Truth' is not a source that I rely upon. Simply, the person I was replying to told me to do a net search and Wikipedia search, and that is one of the top sites that popped up regarding the search terms: [Tower 7 + Controlled Demolition]. However, we are once again arguing the source instead of the information they present.
Has your religion been offended?
A personal attack by you now? I adhere to no religion, and I do not adhere to any "Truther" movement or any conspiracy theorists. I am one guy that is observing oddities in the 9/11 events and discussing them.
Peace