posted on May, 8 2012 @ 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Jocko Flocko
reply to post by Golf66
I enjoy reading your posts, so please, don't take this the wrong way, but if you are who you say you are -I'm not doubting your claims it's just that
there's way too MANY fakers on ATS- Should you really be coming out on ATS and talking about this stuff, didn't you sign an NDA for national security
edit on 8-5-2012 by Jocko Flocko because: (no reason given)
With regard to this particular thread - I opine because quite simply, I don't see what we do as torture. We do worse to our own Soldiers in training
- I will leave it at that.
I have signed several NDA's for many different programs. The fact I attended SERE school, was in Special Forces, and such and what they teach there
is not a state secret in any way. It’s all on my DD214 filed at the county court house. The courses are changed all the time and I am sure that
what I learned in the late 1980s in SERE are so outdated as to be irrelevant today. If you look up SERE school on google you can find out more about
it than I have revealed. A key piece of information is missing to make anything I have said a case of either confermation or denial or knowledge of
an activity i.e. punishable under the law - an identity. I am an anonymous account on a conspiracy site. The ultimate in plausable deniability. If
that ever changes i.e. with the true ID law or whatever - I will stop the internet.
One cannot tie my real name to this account other than I guess the owners of the site and the skilled agents of the government. I suppose if it
really mattered to someone with TPTB they could hunt me down and if they really dig deep maybe spank me on the pee pee but I have done the
classification avoidance dance a lot and don't think I have divulged anything of national security interest. I have also played the plausible
deniability game more than I care to in the past and think I have make a good case for in the veil of anonymity the internet provides. In sum I am not
really afraid of TPTB. They can come get me, you or anyone else should they want to and make it all look like an accident. I don't live in fear of
it any more.
I gave no real operational details. I only stated that like the CIA officer claims in his book - which was cleared by the SSO we did indeed do these
things. I said I did them. I didn't say where, when and to whom. I was also a trainer in RTI both in the US and in England for a while (that is
also on my DD214). I also said that I was assigned to Uzbekistan (also on my DD214) for a while and that they truly tortured the # out of people
there – I think. I never witnessed any of it - I only saw the after effects. The victims were not necessarily our prisoners either - I never
indicated who they were.
Why I choose to comment at all on ATS is because, I trust the government probably less than most in America because I have seen first-hand what they
are capable of. I have participated in it. I make no excuses I was well paid for my time and enjoy an excellent retirement and for the most part
would do all the same things again.
To put it bluntly the world of intelligence and special operations is not a world of black and white. The world is not a pretty place it is inhabited
by all manner of real human monsters. Sometimes we cut deals with the monsters and employ then when its suits our temporary needs - sometimes we hunt
them down and kill them with extreme prejudice. Sometimes, we do both in that order.
In all cases it is necessary. Unsavory, but neccesary.
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