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Originally posted by Cecilofs
So can we stop talking about your training as though its comparable to actual torture?
Originally posted by QQXXw
Originally posted by daaskapital
Originally posted by QQXXw
Waterboarding is not even torture, I would file in under special investigative techniques
What is more humane? to send a person to military prison for 10 years on suspicion that that they are an enemy of the United States or to waterboard them for 10 minutes and find out if they are really telling the truth on not ?
edit on 25-4-2012 by QQXXw because: (no reason given)
Waterboarding has been proven many times to be an "effective torturing technique."
And, i would think that they would waterboard someone for more than 10 minutes.
I heard turning off the light for a prolonged period of time can be a torture technique as well, should we ban all light switches?
edit on 25-4-2012 by QQXXw because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Golf66
Originally posted by Cecilofs
So can we stop talking about your training as though its comparable to actual torture?
Sure, I'll stop if you will start every post on the subject with - "I have no clue what I am talking about but here is my opinion anyway...."
I have a frame of reference that you do not. YMMV I'm cool with that.
The training is real enough to elicit the desired result - of that I assure you.
If you want to gain some real information or experiance you can get some. The opportunity exists for everyone.
Originally posted by signal2noise
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Ahhh yes, that is quite easy to say sitting in your home, with your computer, you food, your luxuries.
Its fun to talk about how easy these things are when you arent actually facing them, isnt it?
Ah, yes, it's easy to run your suck when you don't have a clue about the person that posted that, huh?
Sorry, Slick, but I've been waterboarded in SERE school. It was a lot easier to deal than having my nose broken.
Originally posted by Golf66
Originally posted by Cecilofs
So can we stop talking about your training as though its comparable to actual torture?
Sure, I'll stop if you will start every post on the subject with - "I have no clue what I am talking about but here is my opinion anyway...."
I have a frame of reference that you do not. YMMV I'm cool with that.
The training is real enough to elicit the desired result - of that I assure you.
If you want to gain some real information or experiance you can get some. The opportunity exists for everyone.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
That's fine, "slick", you still dont know what it is to actually be tortured.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
I dont care how much training you have gone through, as I said before, knowing that it is simply training changes the psychological aspect of it. Getting it done in training, knowing that it is only training, is a FAR cry from ACTUALLY being tortured.
Originally posted by QQXXw
reply to post by Cecilofs
same logic should apply to the terrorists, no?
they behead, we interrogate
which is more humane?
Originally posted by Jocko Flocko
Wow. Well, I guess I must be "inhumane" if I agree that using water-boarding is perfectly fine when dealing with the types of sub-human vermin that cut the heads off of hostages then posted the videos on the internet from Iraq. Better grow some testicles folks, if you don't have the stomach to deal with what the intelligence community does to keep the nut-jobs from killing you, maybe you shouldn't read about it.edit on 30-4-2012 by Jocko Flocko because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by signal2noise
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
That's fine, "slick", you still dont know what it is to actually be tortured.
Guess what? You sure don't.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
I dont care how much training you have gone through, as I said before, knowing that it is simply training changes the psychological aspect of it. Getting it done in training, knowing that it is only training, is a FAR cry from ACTUALLY being tortured.
Right. In SERE, the instructor told us, "Hey, we can't kill you, but we can make sure you wish you were dead."
Then my nose was broken. Things sorta went downhill from there.
It also serves as an argument against Dick Cheney-approved use of coercive techniques: the lies that spilled out of KSM’s mouth as he was being tortured sent the CIA on goose chases across the globe
Originally posted by Jocko Flocko
reply to post by Danbones
You didn't answer the question.
Line 2.