reply to post by Druscilla
I have hear a couple of folks talk about ice droplets in the upper atmosphere or water droplets in lower atmospheres or satellites when the droplet
story doesn't fit.
A couple of things struck me today about these relatively HQ images, us humans can mostly tell perspective roughly roughly that means we are not 100%
wrong in all cases, infact most folks are more than 50% in most cases. (if we can't we're not very clever are we?)
The part 2 transit across Northern India in sub 8 sec is a bit of a wild claim due to the paralax view-the ball is nearer than the continent behind it
which slows it down from an estimated 30,000mph to more like 5000, mph, however that still relative to the camera filming so that means that 5000 is
its nominal rate plus whatever the camera speed is which still gets us back up to the 30,000mph mark, or around 3000mph if contra to the planet's
Secondly perspective is aided by the ability to actually see these things skipping into and out of the lower atmospheres-in many cases they leave a
tiny wake, its difficult to tell why (eg low pressure vapour or shock wave) but its there if you look closely.
Because the air is dense enough to show this wake effect it is surprising if they are chunks of ice to see them rising and in some cases accelerating
rather than getting smaller and falling the denser the atmosphere and the stronger the gravitational effect.
There is also the widespread reporting of precisely this type of tumbling disc (in much of the footage if you obsever it very closely they almost
flash light and dark as they wobble and tumble) elsewhere-see "UFO/OVNI over Japan" or "UFO Sighting, Filmed from plane" there are many others but the
tumbling nature is easier to spot here.
Finally another striking aspect of these is that about 50% of cases they do not come and go, they appear and disappear. e.g The third one in the
formation at the end of Part 2 of the ISS Feed.
I know Shanon tracked on at 17,000 and tried to warn Ganda across the north atlantic that was Ireland to Huson bay in 4 minutes with a hard left turn
north that was in September 2010 after is messed with birmingham Class A Airspace and Lakenheath routed a Scout from LFA7 to take a peek.
Also see here for historic references of identicle phenomena:
9-9-52 Portland, Oregon Two oval or disc-shaped UFOs hovering; one wobbled.
9-20-52 Topcliffe, England Silver disc rotated and wobbled. [Operation Mainbrace
Chronology, this section]
9-9-54 Nelson, New England Three discs hovered, wobbled, rose at high speed.
[Section VIII; Photographs]
3-2-55 Tucson, Arizona Elongated UFO passed overhead with "loping or rocking motion."
3-28-55 Joseph City, Arizona Large group of UFOs maneuvering like jets in a dogfight, split up,
began moving with "strange fluttering motion."
7-26-55 Washington, D.C. Round UFO approached airport, hovered, and oscillated before
3-20-56 Washington, D.C. Three discs, silvery-white; tilted in "wobbling" motion, moved up
7-56 Washington, D.C. Three discs, one with "a pronounced wobble," leaving visible trails
and flying "in definite formation."
7-14-56 Arlington, Virginia Amateur astronomers watched object larger than stars or planets
for four minutes; object had "wobbling motion."
8-20-56 Citrus Heights, California Large group of Saturn-shaped UFOs in rough semi-circle
formation, individually wobbling.
12-18-56 Barberton, Ohio UFOs arced across sky from east to west; when it slowed and
hovered "it wobbled and had erratic movement."
Many identicle to these were also picked up by the STS missions but the camera quality back then was far poorer and Nasa also downplayed it so I
won't bother referencing that most of you will have seen it though and heard the remarks which Fort Meade didn't bother to remove on the delay. With
today's remote HD kit though its far harder to say "ah its nothing"
Basically they are not ice or water they are all over the place and have been for years, they look unstable but handle very precisely and move and
I wish people would take the time to study these things, and understand that if you can't explain something it doesn't mean it was faked or created by
god, it just means you can't explain it yet.
My guess is because there are so many of them and because everyone now has an HD camera we'll find out pretty soon what they are, I just hope we're
nice when it happens.
edit on 24-4-2012 by Darkstar74 because: edited due to terrible spelling and grammar