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Originally posted by nii900
if we could put human consciousness in that category of the machine too then the astral world or a shadow of a-live one is where the interference is build trough its human pattern in it by the very nature of a pattern - a human form?
btw. I really like this picture so often shown on the net ..does anyone know the actual author of it?
They erase the which path data, the interference pattern returns because the information is gone. Does the pattern return because a human CAN NOT view the data or DOES NOT view the data? In other words, if the experiment runs unattended does the pattern show up? Or is that a moot point because if it is unattended there is no-one to see the pattern either....
Good question not sure but logic dictates it is a moot point for the exact reason you gave.
No, the setup is such that when the experimenter looks at the detectors that are associated with the wich path info being unknown afterwards, the pattern on the screen is an interference pattern if the screen is also checked afterwards, even though at the time the particles hit the screen the wich path info was available, wich should have caused a non interference pattern.
The wich path data doesn't change magically, the pattern on the detector screen does, it's two different things.
The delayed choice quantum eraser, allows the decision whether to measure or destroy the "which path" information to be delayed until after the entangled particle partner (the one going through the slits) has either interfered with itself or not. Doing so appears to have the bizarre effect of causing the outcome of an event after the event has already occurred. In other words, something that happens at time t apparently reaches back to some time t - 1 and acts as a determining causal factor at that earlier time.
Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
reply to post by RandomEsotericScreenname
What do you expect from someone who joined a mere month ago and who has 700 posts by now. A quality contribution ?
In regards to the "Doppelspalt Experiment Debunked long ago" I would really like to have a link to the peer reviewed paper, because that's the first time I hear of it.
There's been this thread a couple weeks ago in which someone assumed the real explanation for the weird results of this experiment is, that we are living in a simulation. Therefore, in order to limit the amount of processing power used at any given moment of time, individual particles are only fully "rendered" when someone is observing the item.
For example: A table is not rendered by always calculating every single atom in it but by treating the whole table as one single object with a couple surfaces. Until someone starts looking at it with a microscope.
Of course this theory can be neither proven, nor disproved, because in order to do so you have to observe the object in question. Kind of ironic.
edit on 25-4-2012 by H1ght3chHippie because: spilleng
Doing so appears to have the bizarre effect of causing the outcome of an event after the event has already occurred.
Originally posted by lucifuge
Is it the case with the whole of Quantum Physics, that because we don't fully understand it and it has some peculiar noted properties. Thus anything in science we can't explain with rational thought or experimental presidence. It therefore concludes it must be Quantum Physics or Quantum something?
I never said that