posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 10:54 AM
Originally posted by swan001
reply to post by emsed1
Thanks for clarifying this point. So, all our theories, on ATS, in which we say the Masons served the Illuminati are false?
Thanks again for clarifying.
There isn't any plausible evidence that the Illuminati as originally created by Weishaupt exist today. However I believe Weishaupt and Knigge were
both Freemasons before creating the Bavarian Illuminati.
The impetus for the creation of the Illuminati was to create a trusted group that could meet secretly and discuss enlightenment ideals. The Church
and the government in Europe HATED this idea.
Terry Melanson writes on his ConspiracyArchive site:
The Bavarian Illuminati originated during an age replete with the growing belief in the acquisition of truth through observation and experience.
The Age of Enlightenment was in full swing and by the end of the Eighteenth Century an explosion of natural philosophy, science, the resurgence of
hermeticism and occult experimentation, all competed directly with the traditional teachings of the Church and the Jesuit monopoly in the Universities
and Colleges. 5
Numerous ideologies owe an intellectual and political heritage to this period: skepticism, rationalism, atheism, liberalism, humanism, reductionism,
modernism, communism, nihilism and anarchism - among the most apparent.
I enjoy Terry's writings, although I don't always agree with his conclusions.
Although Freemasonry is not a religion, it is, as expressed by Manly P. Hall "of a religious nature'.
There is no religious dogma and we don't ever discuss specific religious beliefs in lodge. However the nature of the lodge is profoundly spiritual.
If I were to describe the spiritual lessons I think the closest fit would be Universalism.
Because Freemasonry was a large public target for the Church and the ruling politicians it was difficult to explore these ideas without interference.
It becomes dangerous for a ruling class when the peasants begin to realize that ultimately they don't need a King or Pope to tell them how to live
I can definitively say though, that Freemasonry does not subordinate itself to any other group.
I also believe that if the Illuminati were around today they would stand AGAINST an NWO and TPTB. I believe the Illuminati were a lot more like ATS
than the Rothschilds and the Gettys.